parksguard
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You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?
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Post by parksguard on Aug 23, 2014 2:52:37 GMT
Why only delete the first times? Who knows who used it that knows it, maybe someone that isn't that fast usually but has got a great time now. We can question all lap times now but that wouldn't be good, so maybe if the people that used it, if it's in the top 10 or not would say it. I personally don't know where it is or who knows it. The point is principal, if p1 and p2 did it and pX did it, why would only p1 and p2 be deleted. Because it's the best laptime set? Because Broughy said to and because the time is impossible without cheating. Also its fixed now so Ill just say it. You take the first hairpin wrong and turn around going up the road you just came down cutting back across the tire line with some epic speed on the downhill righthander. You can see it HERE
Never would have thought about that...
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Post by vxwk on Aug 23, 2014 2:58:35 GMT
Deleting all times wouldn't be a good idea, everyone's personal bests would be wiped. The top two times just seemed suspiciously quicker than all the rest. By all means the two people who's times got deleted prove me wrong and do it again.
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Post by Trowa on Aug 23, 2014 3:00:22 GMT
Because Broughy said to and because the time is impossible without cheating. Also its fixed now so Ill just say it. You take the first hairpin wrong and turn around going up the road you just came down cutting back across the tire line with some epic speed on the downhill righthander. You can see it HERE
Never would have thought about that... I found it the first day I tried the track because I sucked so much at the right hander I tried everthing to make it easier but didnt ever do it on my laptimes for the leaderboard. I was in the high 1:40s when I did it and even then I deemed it too risky, not worth it and disrespectful to the track.
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Post by ♛ZeNzI23 on Aug 23, 2014 3:05:56 GMT
Deleting all times wouldn't be a good idea, everyone's personal bests would be wiped. The top two times just seemed suspiciously quicker than all the rest. By all means the two people who's times got deleted prove me wrong and do it again. I'm not saying to delete all times, I'm saying that if the first 2 times are deleted bc they 'cheated' bc it stands out from the others. The times that don't stand out but did cheated, should also be deleted. The problem is that those 'cheated' bad times aren't noticed. Damn, I can't explain myself properly.. Example maybe: Slowmo and me would hot lap LSGP, I get without cheating best 1:37:50. Slowmo is rather slow so his best (without cheating) is 1:39:00. Suddenly he finds out about the trick and gets his best time 1:37:00. So it isn't the best time set but not a slow time. He wouldn't be high up into the leaderboards so it isn't an impossible time and it doesn't stand out, but he did cheat. So nobody cares that he cheated because it isn't an impossible time, but to me it would be unfair that he used the 'cheat' to gain a faster time than me.
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Post by Trowa on Aug 23, 2014 3:09:35 GMT
So if the time wouldn't be impossible, but did use the line and just isn't fast on the rest of the track it isn't cheating? In my opinion if you delete times because they cheated (which I approve) you should do it for all times, not only the impossible times, if they cheated. Problem is I cant prove that the other times are cheating. Only the 2 truly impossible times. I would delete every time and require they be in a race if I could bc hotlapping is lame and I believe Ch3rry made a thread in the commissioner boards that supported that. If she didnt then she meant to but its something I discussed with both her and Ph33nx and I still stand by it. Sooo either get on board and help me out changing the way you get a lap on the boards or lock the thread or do nothing and potentially allow other illegitimate times to be on the board. Ive done all I can by voicing my opinion.
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Post by ♛ZeNzI23 on Aug 23, 2014 3:16:09 GMT
So if the time wouldn't be impossible, but did use the line and just isn't fast on the rest of the track it isn't cheating? In my opinion if you delete times because they cheated (which I approve) you should do it for all times, not only the impossible times, if they cheated. Problem is I cant prove that the other times are cheating. Only the 2 truly impossible times. I would delete every time and require they be in a race if I could bc hotlapping is lame and I believe Ch3rry made a thread in the commissioner boards that supported that. If she didnt then she meant to but its something I discussed with both her and Ph33nx and I still stand by it. Sooo either get on board and help me out changing the way you get a lap on the boards or lock the thread or do nothing and potentially allow other illegitimate times to be on the board. Ive done all I can by voicing my opinion. That's what I'm trying to say. The people that used it should come clean, there isn't another way to find out. (Anonymous or not) And I've never been a fan of hot lapping bc I'm bad at it. But some people like to do it, so taking away their enjoyment is also a bit unfair to me. There will always be people that try to cheat.
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Post by vxwk on Aug 23, 2014 3:17:21 GMT
Deleting all times wouldn't be a good idea, everyone's personal bests would be wiped. The top two times just seemed suspiciously quicker than all the rest. By all means the two people who's times got deleted prove me wrong and do it again. I'm not saying to delete all times, I'm saying that if the first 2 times are deleted bc they 'cheated' bc it stands out from the others. The times that don't stand out but did cheated, should also be deleted. The problem is that those 'cheated' bad times aren't noticed. Damn, I can't explain myself properly.. Example maybe: Slowmo and me would hot lap LSGP, I get without cheating best 1:37:50. Slowmo is rather slow so his best (without cheating) is 1:39:00. Suddenly he finds out about the trick and gets the best time 1:37:00. So it isn't the best time set but not a slow time. He wouldn't be high up into the leaderboards so it isn't an impossible time and it doesn't stand out, but he did cheat. So nobody cares that he cheated because it isn't an impossible time, but to me it would be unfair that he used the 'cheat' to gain a faster time than me. Yeah I know what you mean but there is no way to prove this. There is nothing that can be done.
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Post by Trowa on Aug 23, 2014 3:25:34 GMT
Problem is I cant prove that the other times are cheating. Only the 2 truly impossible times. I would delete every time and require they be in a race if I could bc hotlapping is lame and I believe Ch3rry made a thread in the commissioner boards that supported that. If she didnt then she meant to but its something I discussed with both her and Ph33nx and I still stand by it. Sooo either get on board and help me out changing the way you get a lap on the boards or lock the thread or do nothing and potentially allow other illegitimate times to be on the board. Ive done all I can by voicing my opinion. That's what I'm trying to say. The people that used it should come clean, there isn't another way to find out. (Anonymous or not) And I've never been a fan of hot lapping bc I'm bad at it. But some people like to do it, so taking away their enjoyment is also a bit unfair to me. There will always be people that try to cheat. Not going to work. Need to wipe the boards and make new times in race only. People who set their times in races can repost them by searching the thread for their posts.
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Doodle
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wait this still exists?
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Post by Doodle on Aug 23, 2014 3:29:23 GMT
Oh and I don't mean to bother you guys much but my North Loop and Cutting Corners times haven't been put on the leaderboard.
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gun1t123
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Post by gun1t123 on Aug 23, 2014 3:39:40 GMT
Yo doodle, check the times for Loop the Lake! Try out the Zentorno and let me know how you do!
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Doodle
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wait this still exists?
Posts: 457
Registered on: April 2014
PSN ID: doodlemonoply / TRL_doodle
Social Club: doodlemonoply
Discord: Doodle#4061
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Post by Doodle on Aug 23, 2014 3:40:45 GMT
Yo doodle, check the times for Loop the Lake! Try out the Zentorno and let me know how you do! Oh wow you joined this website. I'm not sure I can do it tonight. It's getting a little late, but I'll give it a go sometime soon.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2014 3:43:51 GMT
Yo doodle, check the times for Loop the Lake! Try out the Zentorno and let me know how you do! Is this the real Shaggy? If so, that's pretty damn awesome.
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Doodle
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wait this still exists?
Posts: 457
Registered on: April 2014
PSN ID: doodlemonoply / TRL_doodle
Social Club: doodlemonoply
Discord: Doodle#4061
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Post by Doodle on Aug 23, 2014 3:47:06 GMT
'Tis the real Shaggy. Though that was a strange way of contacting me to inform me of a laptime.
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Post by ♛ZeNzI23 on Aug 23, 2014 3:51:12 GMT
That's what I'm trying to say. The people that used it should come clean, there isn't another way to find out. (Anonymous or not) And I've never been a fan of hot lapping bc I'm bad at it. But some people like to do it, so taking away their enjoyment is also a bit unfair to me. There will always be people that try to cheat. Not going to work. Need to wipe the boards and make new times in race only. People who set their times in races can repost them by searching the thread for their posts. Yes, BUT where is the line between race and hot lapping. We often do 10+ races with more than 5 people on LSGP and eventually you're sort of driving alone, i tend to begin to hot lap to get closer to the next person. So what is that difference.. I know what you mean, but it would just become a different problem. When is it hot lapping and when is it racing.
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Makin10
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Post by Makin10 on Aug 23, 2014 3:51:11 GMT
Mak1n aka Gun1t123 here!
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