nudeltime
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Post by nudeltime on May 6, 2015 15:32:18 GMT
As some of you know, the German G36 is inaccurate at temperatures over 23°C (I will not convert to Fahrenheit, it's stupid) because "it's not meant to be used for that kind of environment". The magazines apparently get stuck often and bullets are not strong enough because it's only caliber 5.56. This apparently also applies to the American M4, which is allegedly going to get replaced by the "M4A1+". The Bundeswehr has been searching for a new rifle since 2010. I've heard that they're maybe going to use the XM8 but I don't have any sources. Now discuss!  |
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Post by KoBo_043 on May 6, 2015 16:14:19 GMT
They should use catapults and shoot bonbons! Make love, not war  |
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Post by Renegade1911 on May 6, 2015 23:09:11 GMT
I'd read the sources, but I don't speak German.
Now, when you shoot a gun, it gets hot. How hot depends of course on the weather, but also on how often you fire single rounds. It can get so hot the plastic accessories can literally begin to melt, should you shoot it non-stop long enough. So after the first few rounds shot in a potential firefight the outside tempreature ceases to matter.
Guns are affected by head/cold, of course. I don't know about the Gs, but after many years of deployment in the Middle East I have not heard anything about the M4 being particularly affected by the heat.
So, again, I can't read what's in those articles, but I'm not sure there's anything to discuss. Guns all have their optimal working tempreature, but do they care for a little heat? Not really.
EDIT: I just reread my post and I noticed how horrendously wrong the "but after many years of deployment in the Middle East I have not heard anything about the M4 being particularly affected by the heat." words sound. I have not ever been to the Middle East, nor am I an armyman (Yet. I passed exams this spring and I'm joining what's called the University of Defence in August). What I meant was the M4's years of deployment.
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Post by KoBo_043 on May 7, 2015 4:36:22 GMT
"No fight today boys. It's to damn hot!" Said no-one ever.
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Post by Trowa on May 7, 2015 5:06:52 GMT
NATO uses 5.56 in most of their assualt rifles. Honestly I think the ACR is the best Assualt Rifle for military use at the moment. It brings a lot of versatility to the table and the resilience that people love about guns like the Ak-47. The Tar-21 is good bullpup AR also.
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Post by SakiBomb on May 7, 2015 5:16:39 GMT
G36, M4A1, ACR. Reminds me of Combat Arms... ( MrMister  ) |
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Post by MrMister on May 7, 2015 7:58:14 GMT
G36, M4A1, ACR. Reminds me of Combat Arms... ( MrMister ) haha very true, especially the g36 I bought one of those permanent with gp and if you knew how to use it, it was so freaking powerfull. ah the good old times |
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Post by Renegade1911 on May 7, 2015 10:17:20 GMT
NATO uses 5.56 in most of their assualt rifles. Honestly I think the ACR is the best Assualt Rifle for military use at the moment. It brings a lot of versatility to the table and the resilience that people love about guns like the Ak-47. The Tar-21 is good bullpup AR also. ACR is heavy and really provides no considerable advantage imo. I'd go for SCAR Heavy, if anything. It's combat tested and the 7.62 cailber makes world of a difference. I wish the Czech army went for the M4 also, but nooooooo, we have to carry an untested hog of a gun just to give the contract to a local manufacturer. |
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Post by drubert on Jun 1, 2015 23:45:25 GMT
Hey, are guns part of your life or do you just have an interest in them? Only asking as I only knowledge I have of a M4 or anything is with a controller... Just wondering that's all
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Post by nudeltime on Jun 2, 2015 16:52:45 GMT
Hey, are guns part of your life or do you just have an interest in them? Only asking as I only knowledge I have of a M4 or anything is with a controller... Just wondering that's all Everyone in germany just shat themselves when this message first appeared, it started an outrage haha |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 17:50:05 GMT
I'm assigned to a USAF squadron on a German Air Force base and the GAF love when we go to the range together because we get to try each others stuff out. They love shooting the M4...which is kinda funny since the US personnel don't really care for the gun. The grass is always greener I suppose. Everyone complains that the G36 is too much plastic. Maybe that's part of the problem, like Renegade mentioned.
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Post by basedSHARK on Jun 2, 2015 18:51:03 GMT
It's about time the M4 was replaced.
ACR master race!
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Post by OpalescentFalcon on Jun 3, 2015 11:08:31 GMT
Don't know anything about guns. When I first read the title I thought it was about the claimed stats for Bmw M4 and Infinity G36.
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Post by double_s92 on Jun 3, 2015 12:32:32 GMT
Don't know anything about guns. When I first read the title I thought it was about the claimed stats for Bmw M4 and Infinity G36. LOL same. Initially I thought this was some steering wheel comparison thread for project cars XD The only "gun" I've fired in my life is a paintball gun :-p |
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Post by ChrisDE22 on Jun 3, 2015 13:06:33 GMT
Don't know anything about guns. When I first read the title I thought it was about the claimed stats for Bmw M4 and Infinity G36. LOL same. Initially I thought this was some steering wheel comparison thread for project by SalePlus"> cars XD The only "gun" I've fired in my by SalePlus"> life is a paintball gun :-p ^ GAY |
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