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Post by Trowa on Jun 11, 2015 22:49:37 GMT
Davos is utterly loyal to Stannis. Stannis shortened his right hand's fingers by a knuckle and it only made Davos love him more. Shireen's death will not cause him to leave. He was punishing Davos for a crime he did commit. Davos saw it as fair and even merciful. Shireen was completely innocent and he loved her deeply. Davos couldnt even stand for Roberts bastard Genry to be sacrificed. He thought it was wrong and cruel and was willing to risk his own life to stop it. What makes you think he wouldnt do the same for Shireen exactly?
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Post by DR_PEPPERZ_ on Jun 11, 2015 23:01:45 GMT
Davos is utterly loyal to Stannis. Stannis shortened his right hand's fingers by a knuckle and it only made Davos love him more. Shireen's death will not cause him to leave. He was punishing Davos for a crime he did commit. Davos saw it as fair and even merciful. Shireen was completely innocent and he loved her deeply. Davos couldnt even stand for Roberts bastard Genry to be sacrificed. He thought it was wrong and cruel and was willing to risk his own life to stop it. What makes you think he wouldnt do the same for Shireen exactly? The difference is that he was with stannis when they going to sacrifice gendry, he cant exactly risk his own life for shireen considering she's already dead. I have a feeling davos was kind of expecting stannis to sacrifice shireen when he was sent back to castle black. Personally i dont think stannis is a lunatic, its just his desire for the throne is much greater than his love for shireen.
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Post by Trowa on Jun 11, 2015 23:15:03 GMT
He was punishing Davos for a crime he did commit. Davos saw it as fair and even merciful. Shireen was completely innocent and he loved her deeply. Davos couldnt even stand for Roberts bastard Genry to be sacrificed. He thought it was wrong and cruel and was willing to risk his own life to stop it. What makes you think he wouldnt do the same for Shireen exactly? The difference is that he was with stannis when they going to sacrifice gendry, he cant exactly risk his own life for shireen considering she's already dead. I have a feeling davos was kind of expecting stannis to sacrifice shireen when he was sent back to castle black. Personally i dont think stannis is a lunatic, its just his desire for the throne is much greater than his love for shireen. I realize he wasnt there. What I meant was he was willing to piss on his loyalty to Stannis to do what he believe was right. What is different now? I almost gurantee he renounces his loyalty to Stannis very soon. Well soon in terms of episodes, we might have to wait a year for the next season to find out but yeah you get the point.
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Post by DR_PEPPERZ_ on Jun 11, 2015 23:20:07 GMT
The difference is that he was with stannis when they going to sacrifice gendry, he cant exactly risk his own life for shireen considering she's already dead. I have a feeling davos was kind of expecting stannis to sacrifice shireen when he was sent back to castle black. Personally i dont think stannis is a lunatic, its just his desire for the throne is much greater than his love for shireen. I realize he wasnt there. What I meant was he was willing to piss on his loyalty to Stannis to do what he believe was right. What is different now? I almost gurantee he renounces his loyalty to Stannis very soon. Well soon in terms of episodes, we might have to wait a year for the next season to find out but yeah you get the point. Yeah i completely agree, sorry i meant the whole 'risk his own life' as abit of a joke lol. I cant imagine it will be the next episode unfortunately, would be a very short space of time for davos to come back.
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Post by Trowa on Jun 11, 2015 23:23:31 GMT
I realize he wasnt there. What I meant was he was willing to piss on his loyalty to Stannis to do what he believe was right. What is different now? I almost gurantee he renounces his loyalty to Stannis very soon. Well soon in terms of episodes, we might have to wait a year for the next season to find out but yeah you get the point. Yeah i completely agree, sorry i meant the whole 'risk his own life' as abit of a joke lol. I cant imagine it will be the next episode unfortunately, would be a very short space of time for davos to come back. Yeah it will likely be next season that we see how Davos reacts bc I doubt he will even make it to Castle Black by the end of this weeks episode and its not like theres going to be a Raven waiting for him with the news when he gets there.
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Post by DR_PEPPERZ_ on Jun 11, 2015 23:28:31 GMT
Yeah i completely agree, sorry i meant the whole 'risk his own life' as abit of a joke lol. I cant imagine it will be the next episode unfortunately, would be a very short space of time for davos to come back. Yeah it will likely be next season that we see how Davos reacts bc I doubt he will even make it to Castle Black by the end of this weeks episode and its not like theres going to be a Raven waiting for him with the news when he gets there. Plus if you look on the synopsis for the episode it says 'Stannis marches' which most likely means Stannis and Davos will be going in completely different directions haha
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Post by Hale on Jun 12, 2015 0:07:56 GMT
Shits goin down. I think we can all agree.
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Post by endersai on Jun 12, 2015 0:43:14 GMT
Davos is utterly loyal to Stannis. Stannis shortened his right hand's fingers by a knuckle and it only made Davos love him more. Shireen's death will not cause him to leave. He was punishing Davos for a crime he did commit. Davos saw it as fair and even merciful. Shireen was completely innocent and he loved her deeply. Davos couldnt even stand for Roberts bastard Genry to be sacrificed. He thought it was wrong and cruel and was willing to risk his own life to stop it. What makes you think he wouldnt do the same for Shireen exactly? Well I've refused to watch this season because of how shit Benihoff and Weiss are as writers. They're ham-fisted hacks who illustrate continually how manifestly inadequate they are when they try to put their own take on Martin's source material. Ser Davos is, at least in the books, willing to risk his life (and indeed, lost sons) in service to Stannis. He is faithful to the Seven, not R'hllor (as the show rarely calls the Lord of Light) and consequently does not like Melisandre's influence over Stannis (in the books, Selyse Florent and others aligned to her house are the fanatical devotees, Stannis is shown as more moderate and pragmatic). He defied Stannis in the books by shipping Edric Storm, the bastard son of Robert and a lesser Florent, away to safety and was punished for it by Stannis (similar to the show and Gendry, who absorbed Edric's role. Once again, the book narrative is vastly superior). But he stayed loyal. Always. He ought not agree, strongly, with Shireen's death and it will cause a rift between the two, but Davos is unlikely to quit Stannis' service altogether. Assuming of course the showrunners elect to be less shit going forward. (FWIW, Season 1? UTTERLY BRILLIANT).
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Post by Ser Tandur on Jun 12, 2015 0:49:04 GMT
Yeah it will likely be next season that we see how Davos reacts bc I doubt he will even make it to Castle Black by the end of this weeks episode and its not like theres going to be a Raven waiting for him with the news when he gets there. Plus if you look on the synopsis for the episode it says 'Stannis marches' which most likely means Stannis and Davos will be going in completely different directions haha I imagine Davos is going to be quite busy at Castle Black after this next episode.
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Post by endersai on Jun 12, 2015 1:17:11 GMT
Where did he send Davos? I only ask because he was given a fairly important role to play in A Dance With Dragons.
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Post by Trowa on Jun 12, 2015 1:29:36 GMT
Where did he send Davos? I only ask because he was given a fairly important role to play in A Dance With Dragons. He sent him to castle black for supplies after Ramsey Bolton and 20 men destroy Stannis' armies resources.
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Post by endersai on Jun 12, 2015 1:53:42 GMT
Right. OK.
In the books, he is sent to rally support among northern lords for Stannis. Really good chapters, actually.
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Post by tjezc☻ on Jun 12, 2015 7:58:37 GMT
I remember seeing Shireen reading her book, thinking 'Moah, she might become queen after all, she has no evil in her and would do the world some good'. A minute later, I'm watching something that made me want to find Clarice (she can't live far from me) and tell her she's a cunt. Then I realised it's just a TV show. Just a show... How I love watching children burn, right? Fuck.
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Post by Hale on Jun 12, 2015 14:59:59 GMT
Book readers need to let go a little bit. Things are changed and as a book reader it's keeping it fresh for me. Nothing wrong with an alternate storyline. If they stayed true to the books entirely then there would be 19 seasons just for book 3 and 4.
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Post by Trowa on Jun 12, 2015 16:08:13 GMT
Book readers need to let go a little bit. Things are changed and as a book reader it's keeping it fresh for me. Nothing wrong with an alternate storyline. If they stayed true to the books entirely then there would be 19 seasons just for book 3 and 4. The best way I can describe Game of Thrones right now is to compare it to the anime Fullmetal Alchemist. The original show aired while the manga(or book) was still being written. So by episode 9 the show had used all the source material available. The show went on for another 43 episodes and the story is so far removed from what ended up happening in the manga that its not even funny. They ended up rebooting the anime with Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood once the Manga was complete many years later but at the time it was very similar to GoT. Its a bit different in that GoT is much further along so its harder for book readers to accept that the story they are reading is not the story thats being watched verbatum. The sooner people realize that the more they will be able to enjoy the show. Its actually quite fun(for me) to watch the book readers get their panties in a twist over it because this isnt something you see outside of anime very often. I love when the book readers who are finished with book 5 act all high and mighty about what they think they know and then they end up being completely wrong. Its actually to the point now where most book readers are just flat out attempting to spoil the show like a few people who have been posting recently. At first you couldnt get a book reader to tell anything about the story. They would just tell you to watch the show or read the books. Nowadays people cant wait to tell you every last detail they know, how everything in the show is wrong and what really happened. Kind of shitty of them because I plan on reading the books, well the rest of them, after the season finale. I finished book 1 about a week ago. One plus is this means we get an alternate ending potentially as George R.R. Martin isnt writing any scripts at all for season 6 and I would assume season 7 also.
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