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Post by Pundip on Sept 7, 2014 14:25:26 GMT
Good because I hadn't practised yet . Pundip And I'm correct in seeing that on their sports race the elegy is not banned That's my bad. The Elegy is in fact banned for all Sports races. Thanks for pointing that out
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Post by Pundip on Sept 7, 2014 22:53:30 GMT
This is not confirmed yet, it is still being discussed so I would like everyone that wants to take part to have an input.
It seems like we would prefer a weekend event but Apex would prefer a weekday event. At the moment they have suggested Sunday 14th at 9pm GMT (that's 10pm BST) which is too late in my opinion, so I am trying to push for earlier.
They can't go earlier because they have an Endurance race (which lasts 1.5 hours) at 6pm GMT (7pm BST).
I also suggested an earlier start of 4pm GMT (5pm BST) in order to try and accommodate some of our members across the pond. By my calculations that would be between 9am and noon over there.
Literally all other details are now sorted. All that is left is to find a date and time to race.
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Post by ♛ZeNzI23 on Sept 8, 2014 14:07:36 GMT
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Post by Pundip on Sept 8, 2014 14:20:01 GMT
Thanks ♛ZeNzI23I was going to make that playlist this evening when I get online but you've just made my life that little bit easier
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Post by Pundip on Sept 8, 2014 18:19:30 GMT
UPDATE:After a lengthy negotiation period with Apex we have agreed upon a date and time for the event. The crew battle will be held on Sunday 21st at 8pm BST (7pm GMT). The OP has been updated with all the information. This date is a little later than hoped,but it is final and will not change again. Thank you all for your patience Does anyone have some ideas on when we should hold the qualifiers? This is literally the last piece the puzzle. Now to bring the mood down a little It has been brought to my attention that we have a bit of a reputation for 'Curb Surfing'. For those that don't know what that is, it is going up onto the pavements to gain advantage from the speed glitch thingy. Apex are very strict in their crew that it is not tolerated, and have asked me to issue a friendly reminder to those from our crew that will be involved to please not do it. It is with the best intentions that I say this. Apex are very keen to let the racing be done on the road and see who comes out on top. I know you all love this crew very much so it does leave a sour taste in my mouth knowing that the crew we all love is gaining a bit of a bad rep
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Post by ♛ZeNzI23 on Sept 8, 2014 18:33:23 GMT
Tbh, if I can take a better line for a corner but it is on the curb than I would take it. Nothing to do with getting boost from going on and off curbs. btw, curbs make you faster, so we have a bad reputation for wanting to be the fastest?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 18:36:00 GMT
I'm gonna drop out because I won't make it past the qualifiers and I've already signed up for a lot of things so I won't have time.Also I don't like this curb boost thing.Mainly because I can't do it without hitting something but also because it feels a bit cheaty.
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Post by Broughy1322 on Sept 8, 2014 18:45:02 GMT
Now to bring the mood down a little It has been brought to my attention that we have a bit of a reputation for 'Curb Surfing'. For those that don't know what that is, it is going up onto the pavements to gain advantage from the speed glitch thingy. Apex are very strict in their crew that it is not tolerated, and have asked me to issue a friendly reminder to those from our crew that will be involved to please not do it. It is with the best intentions that I say this. Apex are very keen to let the racing be done on the road and see who comes out on top. I know you all love this crew very much so it does leave a sour taste in my mouth knowing that the crew we all love is gaining a bit of a bad rep Whilst I can see the benefits of keeping it on the road (and to be honest that's something I'd prefer to do too) getting a bad reputation for using the kerbs to get quicker lap times is ridiculous. That's just how any given track is. Apex can put the rules they want in their own crew but to look down upon us for something as trivial as this is ridiculous. I thought better of them tbh, and there's no way some of the guys in their crew get record lap times without using kerbs on some tracks. Therefore I'm not sure quite where the line is drawn. Very confusing. It shouldn't make much difference adhering to this in the crew battle since everyone will be basically using the same piece of track. It will just take a bit of adjusting in the run up. Having said that, it could always be a track specific thing. If they want to enforce those "stay on the road only" rules on their tracks fair enough, but you should be allowed to race our tracks how we want. You can't just make an overarching rule that affects everyone out of nowhere. The whole point of the setup for these crew battles is to allow each crew to play to their strengths on their own races. maybe put it to them that using the kerbs should be allowed for our races and not for theirs. Seems fair to me. Just two different styles of doing things that's all.
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Post by ♛ZeNzI23 on Sept 8, 2014 18:49:11 GMT
^ and where is the line for using curbs, example on LSGP the cut behind the lamppost at lsc happens to be on a curb, so that would be allowed?
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Post by Rodgerzzz on Sept 8, 2014 18:50:28 GMT
Tbh, if I can take a better line for a corner but it is on the curb than I would take it. Nothing to do with getting boost from going on and off curbs. btw, curbs make you faster, so we have a bad reputation for wanting to be the fastest? What Pundips alluding to is people rushing across the track to the nearest pavement on straights, etc just to get the glitch. If curbs are on racing lines and you use them to the fullest to take the corner at top speed then that's fine, your still using the track. It's when for example on a straight you see 4 people in a line pavement surfing behind trees, benches, phone booths, you name it just to gain the tiniest advantage. You guys don't have any reputation for it from what I know, but it has been mentioned in the discussion with Pundip that some members do use them and as we prefer not to I think it's fair that it's been mentioned. It's no bother wanting to be faster, I'm sure we all want to represent our respective crews in the best light possible, but if people are driving down straights on the pavement for the sake of it instead of actually trying to drive the track and have some decent battles then I imagine we'd just give up and leave you to it! I said this to Pundip on the APEX forum, I think the two crews have a fairly different philosophy on racing in GTA and this crew vs crew will certainly show that. Its gonna be interesting to see anyway and I'm really looking forward to it!
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Post by Broughy1322 on Sept 8, 2014 18:53:20 GMT
Tbh, if I can take a better line for a corner but it is on the curb than I would take it. Nothing to do with getting boost from going on and off curbs. btw, curbs make you faster, so we have a bad reputation for wanting to be the fastest? What Pundips alluding to is people rushing across the track to the nearest pavement on straights, etc just to get the glitch. If curbs are on racing lines and you use them to the fullest to take the corner at top speed then that's fine, your still using the track. It's when for example on a straight you see 4 people in a line pavement surfing behind trees, benches, phone booths, you name it just to gain the tiniest advantage. It's no bother wanting to be faster, I'm sure we all want to represent our respective crews in the best light possible, but if people are driving down straights on the pavement for the sake of it instead of actually trying to drive the track and have some decent battles then I imagine we'd just give up and leave you to it! I said this to Pundip on the APEX forum, I think the two crews have a fairly different philosophy on racing in GTA and this crew vs crew will certainly show that. Its gonna be interesting to see anyway and I'm really looking forward to it! I got the wrong end of the stick then from pundip's message. I'd be happy to agree to that (sticking to racing lines rather than going off course to hit a kerb for a speed boost). I wish all those little tricks weren't in the game in all honesty. As long as kerbs can be used as a racing line if needed I think we're all good.
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Post by Rodgerzzz on Sept 8, 2014 19:11:54 GMT
What Pundips alluding to is people rushing across the track to the nearest pavement on straights, etc just to get the glitch. If curbs are on racing lines and you use them to the fullest to take the corner at top speed then that's fine, your still using the track. It's when for example on a straight you see 4 people in a line pavement surfing behind trees, benches, phone booths, you name it just to gain the tiniest advantage. It's no bother wanting to be faster, I'm sure we all want to represent our respective crews in the best light possible, but if people are driving down straights on the pavement for the sake of it instead of actually trying to drive the track and have some decent battles then I imagine we'd just give up and leave you to it! I said this to Pundip on the APEX forum, I think the two crews have a fairly different philosophy on racing in GTA and this crew vs crew will certainly show that. Its gonna be interesting to see anyway and I'm really looking forward to it! I got the wrong end of the stick then from pundip's message. I'd be happy to agree to that (sticking to racing lines rather than going off course to hit a kerb for a speed boost). I wish all those little tricks weren't in the game in all honesty. As long as kerbs can be used as a racing line if needed I think we're all good. Oh hell yeah, if it's the racing line, abuse it all you want, I know I do! The whole conversation started form a comment from one of our guys saying he'd raced against a couple of crews that were surfing pavements in places where there wasn't a heck of a lot of advantage to be gained yet they still did it. The track it was on has 2 or 3 corners with an apex on a pavement and even then they were hairpins yet the guys were still riding every pavement possible. It kind of sucks that they feel the need to do it and it's a shame that the glitch exists and this discussion has to take place. We had a Crew vs Crew against another racing crew and they honestly took the piss with it so some of the APEX racers have probably been left unimpressed by the whole thing. From my point of view I'm fine with people pavement surfing for gains if they're hotlapping as that's not what I'm into and that probably goes for the rest of the guys at APEX! As I said if its the racing line then great and none of us look down on anyone using the racing line or the pavement to it's absolute fullest if that means going quicker over a lap to get the absolute top time but in a race against other guys that enjoy racing as much as we do then then it'd be nice to keep it to racing lines and proper on track battles!
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Post by Broughy1322 on Sept 8, 2014 19:17:06 GMT
A man after my own heart XD
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Post by Doodle on Sept 8, 2014 19:34:55 GMT
Apex are very strict in their crew that it is not tolerated, and have asked me to issue a friendly reminder to those from our crew that will be involved to please not do it. It is with the best intentions that I say this. Apex are very keen to let the racing be done on the road and see who comes out on top. I know you all love this crew very much so it does leave a sour taste in my mouth knowing that the crew we all love is gaining a bit of a bad rep I'm not sure I can tolerate their silly rule. This being a video game, you have to take any advantage you can find. Going over curbs included. I do it all the time, in races and on my own. If they keep this rule I will boycott the event. I'm sorry but I'd rather play in an enviornment where I'm more comfortable than to be restricted like that.
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Post by jvdw1888 on Sept 8, 2014 19:41:46 GMT
Decided to sign up as well so I can comment when I want to. I'm one of the drivers that's going to represent Apex in this battle and I think that Rodg said it right that we (Apex and NoDo) have a different philosophy on GTA Online racing. In the PM discussion with pundip I said (and I quote): "Only one question: can you ask the NODO racers to avoid the pavements if the pavements aren't on the racing line?", and from that he made the statement. By no means we were implying that you literally have to avoid every piece of pavement. If the pavement is the fastest racing line (and by that I mean on the inside of a corner, or when entering or exiting a corner), go for it, we all do it. But like Rodg said, if you deliberately search for every piece of pavement around you to get that boost, we won't be very satisfied. I also would like to say that for the main group, we have four of the most kind, clean and respecting drivers of the Apex Stalkers signed up, so I'm really looking forward to competing with you guys to see who of us turns out to be the fastest on the roads. Let's make this a competitive but friendly battle without any false accusations from both sides. My apologies to Zenzi, Broughy and Doodle for any miscommunication about curb surfing.
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