ovivoJR
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Post by ovivoJR on May 21, 2016 13:07:29 GMT
Eau Rogue, Pouhon and Blanchimont all are wider than would be allowable. If penalties were on there would be a slowdow for sure. This is a serious accusation. We need to have clear rules about this. As Darn said there were no invalidated times, so the way they took these turns was absolutely legit. In racing you always try to go to the limit and that is what both did. They tried to maximise the available track without going over the limit. As long as there are no overtakes or obvious shortcuts I don´t see any issues with try to go for the limit. If you want to clearly see if drivers have gone over the track limits then the only way to precicly do this without being dependant on other drivers who see a car that might not even be in the position they see it (PCars Lag), is to use the ingame penalty system. That is the only way to reliably see if somebody is exceeding track limits. But just because he went closer to the track limits than others is not a reason to get a penalty!
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Zetmir
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Post by Zetmir on May 21, 2016 16:22:52 GMT
Get your name added to Crew Chief
Ok.. I have had a reply from Crew Chief creator about having our names added to the app. He didnt mention anything re $$ ,, but i think we should all pay $2 to have our names added. (You can donate more to him if you like, just let me know how much and ill send it all thru) You can all send $2 to my paypal. Once we have the list of those that want in ,, i will make a PM tagging all and provide my paypal. I want to get this sorted as soon as possible. If you cant donate to my paypal,, please dont say you want in. No pay = no name added to app. fab. ICEMAN -- $100 from you right We need to talk about how I submit our names in the format requested. Lets try and talk as soon as possible to maybe have the names added before the race at Spa. This is a once off opportunity.
Wow, its 10/10
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 21:17:21 GMT
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Post by endersai on May 22, 2016 0:05:52 GMT
ovivoJR, I've driven more laps around spa than anyone in this event combined I would say, across various formula. This is Vettel's lap record at Spa, 2009. Starts at Blanchimont. Right two wheels go onto runoff area. That's it. FIA rules state that: "In case of an infringement concerning the non-respect of the track limits (Appendix L to the ISC, Chapter IV, Article 2), the Stewards may cancel the improved lap times set as a result of that infringement (in addition to or in substitution for any other available penalties). " Note: May, not must. In the video above all four wheels are clearly off the track limits on the runoff. That is absolutely off the track. If the penalties were turned on 5 second slow down would be imposed. This isn't GTA racing guys. That's all I'm saying. If you're taking those lines and doing 2:16, try doing those lines in a race with bots (just you, so no lag) and penalties turned on.
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Post by Tonyborbony on May 22, 2016 0:26:53 GMT
I have no idea what it's about but it sounds exciting and fun =D
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ovivoJR
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Post by ovivoJR on May 22, 2016 0:30:57 GMT
ovivoJR , I've driven more laps around spa than anyone in this event combined I would say, across various formula. This is Vettel's lap record at Spa, 2009. Starts at Blanchimont. Right two wheels go onto runoff area. That's it. FIA rules state that: "In case of an infringement concerning the non-respect of the track limits (Appendix L to the ISC, Chapter IV, Article 2), the Stewards may cancel the improved lap times set as a result of that infringement (in addition to or in substitution for any other available penalties). " Note: May, not must. In the video above all four wheels are clearly off the track limits on the runoff. That is absolutely off the track. If the penalties were turned on 5 second slow down would be imposed. This isn't GTA racing guys. That's all I'm saying. If you're taking those lines and doing 2:16, try doing those lines in a race with bots (just you, so no lag) and penalties turned on. There wouldn´t be any 5 sec slow down penalties because both laptimes were legit and not invalidated. I would rather race with the ingame penalties turned ON because that is the most reliable judge on such situations. You completely ignore the fact that the laptimes of fab. ICEMAN and Oh_Darn did NOT get invalidated. Meaning they would not have gotten a penalty. Yes they were inches away from getting one but the didn´t. That is called going for the limit. But if you want to race by the rules to not leave the white lines with more than 2 wheels have fun getting everybody to record their races. Otherwise it will be a huge disscussion after every race.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 6:12:29 GMT
There is the option to "Save Replay" at the end of every race.
I have seen from a more pro project car league racing crew that they must save the replay after every race. If there are ever any "enquiries" to be made about incidents / penalties etc,, then they need the replay footage to make a case. I dont think we are at that stage yet.
Run with penalties on is fine by me in the race. I think we need to have a few races during the week on spa with the penalties on as a test run.
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fab. ICEMAN
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Post by fab. ICEMAN on May 22, 2016 15:21:04 GMT
ovivoJR , I've driven more laps around spa than anyone in this event combined I would say, across various formula. *snip* That's so unfair, they have trackside distance signs and we do not.
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Post by endersai on May 22, 2016 20:31:19 GMT
We do on some tracks til @pezby takes them out.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 0:23:58 GMT
PCars Crew Chief Meeting tonight before Nos Monday Playlist. Around or before 5pm UTC Or if you cant make the meeting, PM me your interest and ill tell you what i need. PLEASE try to be at meeting, will make this so much easier and we can decide some things as a group If you want your name added to Crew Chief,, be in the meeting. This is your only chance. If unsure what im talking about, go back a few of my posts to the massive red writing post i made There is also a link in few posts further back by me to explain what crew chief is Basically he replaces the in game shit crew chief, with a great 3rd party app So, this is an opportunity to have your STEAM name added to the app, so he calls out our names during the races instead of generic "the car ahead / behind" etc. endersai -- I know youre fine with what we decide, Ill pm you later what i need from you.
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Post by endersai on May 23, 2016 0:30:52 GMT
Yep, happy to defer to you on this @pezby
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 21:17:10 GMT
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Madderose
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Post by Madderose on May 23, 2016 21:47:14 GMT
I'll pay for arken too.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 21:55:44 GMT
Madderose -- I added Arken to confirmed list.
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Post by Tonyborbony on May 23, 2016 22:25:20 GMT
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