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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 23:06:15 GMT
Everything makes sense now you evil bastards!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 23:46:50 GMT
We may leave and make it on our own. Or others may follow (Denmark especially, as well as potentially France, Netherlands, Italy, Greece). We may see a new EU completely. Firstly, let me make it that I'm not keeping up with danish politics unless a public election are coming up. Basically I'm no expert... However, I'm curious to what makes you say that Denmark in particular may soon follow UK and leave EU? After the last governmental election the Danish People's Party (who are strongly against EU, immigrants, anything non-danish/multi-cultural etc.) have grown to be the biggest political party for the first time ever. Does that have anything to do with your statement?
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Post by Daleks (@darkalex45) on Jun 28, 2016 0:07:22 GMT
Oh god guys the fascists are rising up again {Spoiler}ITS A JOKE JESUS CALM DOWN
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Post by endersai on Jun 28, 2016 5:23:50 GMT
Country will be fine, everyone on my Facebook has woken up this morning with a masters degree in politics and economics. I have masters degrees in politics and economics. I said it'll be in the long term interests of both the EU and UK to pursue integrated economic ties including for the movement of people and labour. I also said it was dangerously myopic to ignore the ramifications of populist votes letting the working class decide too much, citing populists like Trump and Sanders in America as examples.
I was told, no, it's all about racism. By people without masters degrees in politics and economics.
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Post by Hale on Jun 28, 2016 9:02:22 GMT
I feel like you missed my point. I'm just sitting here watching the world burn and enjoying every minute of it.
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Post by katenhond2010 on Jun 28, 2016 9:47:54 GMT
I feel like you missed my point. I'm just sitting here watching the world burn and enjoying every minute of it. You're evil
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Post by Dnl_Jackson on Jun 28, 2016 13:02:35 GMT
In my opinion ppl these days are getting too easily affected by the propaganda bs called out by right-wing populists. You can see that in germany, too. There is a party calling out shit and ppl are believing without checking facts. Do we have become that irresponsible that we just believe instead of checking it our self? It is so easy nowadays to check if something is true but it seems that this makes it even harder to have the competency to do so.
One example from this thread: "the EU is unelected and undemocratic" -> right-wing propaganda at it's finest. I hear that so often and ppl are believing instead of googling "european union elections" or something like this.
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Post by Hale on Jun 28, 2016 16:25:13 GMT
I feel like you missed my point. I'm just sitting here watching the world burn and enjoying every minute of it. You're evil Yup
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Post by endersai on Jun 28, 2016 19:59:31 GMT
In my opinion ppl these days are getting too easily affected by the propaganda bs called out by right-wing populists. You can see that in germany, too. There is a party calling out shit and ppl are believing without checking facts. Do we have become that irresponsible that we just believe instead of checking it our self? It is so easy nowadays to check if something is true but it seems that this makes it even harder to have the competency to do so. One example from this thread: "the EU is unelected and undemocratic" -> right-wing propaganda at it's finest. I hear that so often and ppl are believing instead of googling "european union elections" or something like this. It's on the left too; Bernie Sanders et al blaming problems on free trade instead of immigrants or Brussels. Populism has become a thing since 2008, when the masses got access to smart phones like the iPhone. Policy is complicated, so trying to simplify it will never work yet that's what is demanded.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 21:12:44 GMT
In my opinion ppl these days are getting too easily affected by the propaganda bs called out by right-wing populists. You can see that in germany, too. There is a party calling out shit and ppl are believing without checking facts. Do we have become that irresponsible that we just believe instead of checking it our self? It is so easy nowadays to check if something is true but it seems that this makes it even harder to have the competency to do so. One example from this thread: "the EU is unelected and undemocratic" -> right-wing propaganda at it's finest. I hear that so often and ppl are believing instead of googling "european union elections" or something like this. It's on the left too; Bernie Sanders et al blaming problems on free trade instead of immigrants or Brussels. Populism has become a thing since 2008, when the masses got access to smart phones like the iPhone. Policy is complicated, so trying to simplify it will never work yet that's what is demanded. Funny story (not really). I'm a person who have a really hard time deciding what party to favor when it comes to elections. There are some who I quickly sort through because of their radical opinions, however most others I'm struggling with. The reason being that most of their intentions and policies are good and reasonable but they never go into details about how they are going to carry them out, or why exactly they favor that specific policy compared to thousands of other alternatives. I like to understand not just believe the policies that I support. At the last danish general election I had a hard time choosing between "Venstre ( V)" and "Liberal Alliance ( I)" so to get some clarification I asked on I's facebook page (it seemed as they were replying to almost all questions no matter how shallow) if they could explain the reason behind removing fee's and taxes and what benefits and challenges it would bring (e.g they wanted to remove the 180% tax on cars, which means cheap cars YAY!, but what will replace that governmental income...). I'm no expert, I'm not one to tell whether or not their policies are virable which is why I was asking, however they never replied even though my question had a lot more depth than most of the questions they replied to. TLDR My point being that I don't think political parties gain much spending time and resources trying to explain something complex when most people really isn't interested in politics or national economics but only in how their everyday lives are affected.
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Post by nicholasRL13 on Jun 29, 2016 1:43:00 GMT
Left wing socialists! I cant look at this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2016 6:09:49 GMT
Left wing socialists! I cant look at this thread. How are you gonna discuss your opinions if you can't take hearing/reading about others?
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Post by Daleks (@darkalex45) on Jun 29, 2016 12:34:34 GMT
This thread will start becoming a joke from all of those people who just completely reject any discussion and in the process disrespect and insult others. I don't mind if you post a joke (even if its slightly offensive). But if you in a serious manner just come here to completely disrespect others ideologies and rejecting them without letting them try and explain themselves then I don't want to hear from you anything anymore. That is just shameful behaviour. Also come on, when double_s92 posts something serious then we have to take our chance When do you see him not making a joke?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 15:59:47 GMT
Just gonna leave this here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2017 8:39:26 GMT
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