justinlynch3
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Post by justinlynch3 on Apr 5, 2017 21:33:12 GMT
Conditions.
- PS4. - Public session. - Catchup and Slipstream on.
What the hell is up with the car not making the jump? The X80 is one of the fastest cars out there, it's my favorite car on this race and it's won me a lot of races. So I knew the car can easily make all these jumps. At first I thought it may of been where I was first and catch up was on, but that's never stopped me before. And if it was catch up, why would it still be effecting the car after I lost first? I figured the car was a little damaged, she didn't take the big loops overly straight after all. But again, can't be that because why would it still be effecting me after I respawned?
This was weird and I have no idea what was going on. Any thoughts?
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Post by bladecruiser on Apr 6, 2017 4:05:03 GMT
Catch up affects all cars in the race, with the higher the position having a great reduction in top speed. You can hear your engine basically giving up as you come around the turn behind the Turismo before you get to the big jumps, and you were in second at that time. You barely made the first jump, and only because you were in second and getting a slightly less reduction than when in first, which caused you to not make the second jump.
This is a perfect example of why catch up is absolutely terrible.
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Post by justinlynch3 on Apr 6, 2017 4:28:05 GMT
Is it possible for catch up to glitch and give greater speed reductions then it's supposed to?
I have played Green Machine with contact and catch up before, and X80 has always been my go to car. While I try to go non-contact most times sometimes my friend joins races via the phone, the join race feature and then I join him. Like for example here.
Same car, same track, same conditions. And I had no issues making it.
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Post by bladecruiser on Apr 6, 2017 4:33:23 GMT
It's absolutely possible, considering the game behaves very weirdly if there's any kind of FPS stuttering (yes, even when on console this happens).
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Post by justinlynch3 on Apr 6, 2017 5:31:24 GMT
I see, so it's just another thing you have to be careful for in public lobbies.
Worse thing, when Rockstar made these races, I'm certain they never gave any thought to cars being effected by catch up and made jumps based on how far a solo car could go. lol
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Post by T-BoneCapone_ on Apr 6, 2017 6:14:39 GMT
Looks to me like the last boost strip didn't work properly. Not at all at the first attempt then was slightly delayed the next few times.
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Post by Prrevil on Apr 6, 2017 7:12:45 GMT
At least no one flew over the checkpoint 
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Post by __Gandhi__ on Apr 6, 2017 15:28:11 GMT
With either catchup off , Non contact on or if I'm well behind I would normally come off them ramps at an angle, so as to land on the sides of the U and get a little speed boost. Since the Special Vehicles update I'd noticed this seemed to less achievable. I seemed to be falling short of where I landed before. But I was unsure if it's real or in my head. But I've just done some testing and I'm sure I can't do it like I did before There's also a shortcut on Spinner ( Where you jump from the opposite side of the blue U shaped section than where you are supposed to go and miss a section , save a few seconds) that I used to get about 66% of the time but now I rarely do. I feel like something has changed but as said I don't know if it's in my head, with my PC or actually the game has changed. Like this I can still do this but it's far less reliable. Another section of Spinner make it even more obvious something is different. Here is the section Aiming to come off the ramp at a slight angle and slower so you don't waste as much time hanging in the air and exit missing the next jump. I never got as good at this as some others but what I do know is that I used to press the brake as I hit the very first boost at the bottom of the ramp and keep it held (keyboard so has to be 100%) and I used to slow down but always make the next boost and always clear the lip of the down ramp. Now this happens if I press and hold the brake at the first boost If I wait until just after I've cleared the the first boost. This never used to happen. It was a job to scrub off any speed at all. I always cleared the lip of the down ramp, often at the wrong angle so I'd miss it  but I never lost speed as suddenly as I do now. Car setup is the same. Either the brakes are far better or the boost pads aren't as powerful as before. My money is on the boost pad.
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Post by justinlynch3 on Apr 6, 2017 21:15:40 GMT
Boost pads being weaker could be possible, though why would they do that?
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Post by unknownace24 on Apr 6, 2017 21:40:45 GMT
I was leading a race around the sports car stunt track (it's called City something), but I lagged out of the race, so I was the only one left. I got to one of the jumps with a boost and could get to the landing zone. I tried to make it about 10 times, and I never made it once.
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Post by Blade died for our sins on Apr 6, 2017 22:41:04 GMT
I think it is to do with the boost pads. There was a track I made that needed boosts pads to be on the Ultra Strong setting to be completable. When the update dropped I got a few angry people telling me that my track was incompletable. Went to the track in the creator and, wouldn't you know it, the boost pads were all on the default setting
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Post by justinlynch3 on Apr 7, 2017 0:28:10 GMT
Yea all boosters being reset would certainly hurt when combined with catch up.
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Post by Skirakzalus on Apr 7, 2017 1:03:52 GMT
I had a similar issue as seen in the op when doing one of the R* created tracks. The point to point sports race where you jump over the maze bank arena. At exactly that jump I always came short, think I was in a seven-70, Massacro Racecar or something similar, but definetly custom. I got to last position but still needed multiple tries until it worked. Seemed like the game forced a very heavy catchup on me that got stuck even when I fell behind. Also not sure if boost pads played a role, but I actually made the jump after not driving over them.
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Post by __Gandhi__ on Apr 7, 2017 13:15:39 GMT
Whatever has changed it is at a point after the Special vehicles update not because of it. When the DLC first dropped I tried several of the races before deciding I did not like them that much but the Ruiner ones were IMHO the best of the bunch. I just randomly ended up in the Ruiner race "Nightride". Even on the first straight I could tell the difference. You used to gain so much speed on that uphill section that at 0:32 you were getting airborne and if not heading straight you would come off the sides of the track before you came back down. Now you never leave the ground. And it was the other cars as well so I'm sure it's not just me now. (I did the race again solo to make the clip). There are points later in the track going up a steep tube with boosts where you struggle to make it up the tube at all. I'm going to submit a bug report for all it's worth 
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Post by __Gandhi__ on Apr 7, 2017 13:36:44 GMT
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