Derealm
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Post by Derealm on Jul 10, 2017 12:13:30 GMT
Someone can suggest me some ways to make the rear of my Vagner heavier? I'm having some problem when I'm turning and I like to try it if possible. Thanks 😉
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Post by neutreN on Jul 10, 2017 12:18:53 GMT
git gud :^) There might be a setup that helps but if your talking about the snapy oversteer when turning over bumps, thats just how the car is.
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Post by equationunequal on Jul 10, 2017 13:10:03 GMT
Throttle control . Honestly the Vagner isn't that bad. Try the X80 if you want to experience a really loose rear end.
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Derealm
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Post by Derealm on Jul 10, 2017 13:39:27 GMT
Yeah I also noticed the problem with turning on bump so I'll try with offroad tires but also in some fast turn I lose the rear. What's the setup you're talking about? Maybe it will work. About the throttle I'm already working on it beacuse my previus race style was very aggressive due to previus racing simulator but thanks man
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Rayne-SE
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Post by Rayne-SE on Jul 11, 2017 19:45:51 GMT
I don't think offroads are going to help because they provide a squishy feeling of what is going on between the car and the track. Maybe try the last spoiler variant which is big but not directly attached to the rear. Combine it with the lowest or second lowest suspension for the tiny bit less body roll. But in the end throttle control is the key to success with the Vagner because of RWD and downforce.
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MoreLiberalTears
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Post by MoreLiberalTears on Jul 17, 2017 4:16:13 GMT
my .02
Brake, and, turn, instead of brakewhileturningin. Then, gently apply and maintain partial throttle after braking to induce understeer (= fight oversteer) throughout the remainder of the corner. Exact amount may vary.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 8:40:37 GMT
Could always stick a lamppost on the back of it like I did the other night in a race... greatly improves traction.
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Post by Dirty4749 on Jul 19, 2017 12:38:08 GMT
It doesn't like the rumble strips while cutting corners. You are right it does kick out.
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Post by marsbro on May 12, 2018 17:39:18 GMT
vagner is a special and overpowered car
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Post by jjcannx2 on May 18, 2018 9:03:13 GMT
I have put the first wing option (the really small one) and challenger wheels on mine. Makes it very stable (although I have practiced a lot with it so that is probably a bigger factor).
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Post by happygster on May 18, 2018 9:59:55 GMT
The first spoiler is good simply due to the hitboxes on other spoilers being larger than the width of the car itself. You can get larger ones caught on apex props if you cut it too close.
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Post by Galaxy_XWA on May 18, 2018 16:59:46 GMT
Key With Vagner is watch Rumble Strips and Stunt Curbs.. Offroads Help Slightly but if you turn on Curbs the back end loves to go away from you.... 2nd Spoiler works for me.
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Post by justinlynch3 on May 18, 2018 18:36:15 GMT
Throttle control . Honestly the Vagner isn't that bad. Try the X80 if you want to experience a really loose rear end. Maybe it's just where I have many more hours logged on the X80, but honestly I find the Vagnar looser in turns then the X80.
The X80 understeers making difficult on some tracks (Gauntlet as example of the top of my head) but I find it really never fish tails or tend to slide out, it's a pretty firmly planted to the ground car. While the Vagner I have had a few small slips and skids in while racing.
But like I said I don't use the Vagner that much outside Transform Races designed to include the car, while the X80 is in my top group of go-to cars. So I have way more X80 experience then I do in the Vagner. So that makes a difference.
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Post by BillyLowskill on May 18, 2018 21:00:30 GMT
I don't know much about setups but tested a bit with the Vagner for Trumpet's Formula Classic event. Track was lucky Loop. Setting the suspension from lowest to stock brought the biggest improvement for me regarding the snap oversteer on bumps (and in general).
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Post by xSkreeminSkullx on May 23, 2018 15:45:16 GMT
I'm still working on 'my setup' for the Vagner and coming across the same problems as you. Definitely take a look at CHILLI's document on car mechanics document Link to the document here, as it explains in so much detail what adjustments affect car performance and balance. Definitely take a look at the wheels (especially tuners) section as I find they make the most difference to how the car handles and how snappy the back feels. Obviously, remember there is no 'perfect setup' for any car, just depends on what feels best for you
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