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Post by endersai on Nov 12, 2018 20:23:20 GMT
Yes, actually it does mean he owns the race track. The presence of flags coloured in an unmistakable hue of blue are the giveaway. Ocon had just exited the pits, with fresh super softs on. He tries to throw his nose into turn 2 when he's been lapped by race leader, a guy who he had issues with dating back to F3. He has no rights there; yes, he can unlap himself if he's quicker but not on turn 2 you baguette numpty. And then what, by the way? In a lap or two Max passes you again, congrats. He fucked up, it was probably personal, and given what Ayrton did to Eddie Irvine or what Piquet and Salazar did or what James Hunt did to a marshal, Ocon got off lightly.
For Max, though, he ends up getting compared to Jos which is unfair. Not only is Max not a shit driver like Jos was, he doesn't want to be associated with his wife beating, girlfriend beating, teenager beating piece of shit father. The same father who Ocon'd Montoya at Brazil in 2001.
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Post by Sunken on Nov 13, 2018 19:33:33 GMT
Ocon didn’t come out of the pits on that lap, he was behind Max on a fresh set through the whole lap and Max clearly noted his presence in the team radio and even said he’s coming through so all he had to do is race and eventually take it easy when Ocon overtakes. And actually he can unlap himself wherever he wants if he’s quicker. There were no blueflags waved because Ocon was behind Max and still catching him. He was already past after the main straight but Max simply didn’t give him any room. Of course Max could’ve thought that Ocon wouldn’t dive in there but he did.
I see faults in both of their parts. Ocon went for the overtake into Turn 2 when the braking of Turn 4 would’ve been a safer bet. Max on the otherhand did not give him room while being aware that Ocon was trying to overtake him.
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Post by endersai on Nov 14, 2018 1:38:43 GMT
I read Max's comments from a Ziggo sport interview... fucking hell. This isn't just being Dutch and direct, it's being arrogant and sounding like his not-very-talented, wife punching father. "He's no competitor". "He goaded me". "I just focus on the people I have to focus on, and try to beat drivers who have good material as well."
I get why he did it, but shoving Ocon was a mistake. He lost a win he should not, on paper, have had because of the quali position and supposed pace of Mercedes and Ferrari. More importantly, he has never won back to backs like his team-mate (or like Lewis, Kimi, Seb). He lost that win after tangling with a backmarker, a backmarker who hasn't respected the FIA or his own accountability in the aftermath.
He was pissed off, and as racers we understand that frustration. Even really shoving Ocon isn't that bad so long as you go "yeah look I was fired up, I let my emotions guide me, I understand I shouldn't".
Don't double down. It makes every Max critic right about his immaturity and inability to handle setbacks. His teammate has had a wretched season, a heartbreaking season. He went from a much respected title contender to a lonely 6th because of 7 mechanical retirements (Baku affected them both obviously). He's let his frustrations boil over once, with a "let Gasly have it, it's cursed, why bother" remark that he disowned on social media afterwards. Horner tells us he also punched a wall, but Horner has an interest in sledging Renault so I don't know if it's true or not.
Daniel made Max better. He was a good competitor for Max when he stepped up from STR. And he took a goofy, dorky Dutch kid and showed him how to relax, be lighthearted, and have fun. The videos of the two of them - esp the impromptu dancing at Radillion at Spa - makes the end of that parnership a sad thing.
Learn from Daniel on how to take setback Max. Don't learn from Jos; Jos was never a good driver and never had a shot at greatness.
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Post by endersai on Nov 21, 2018 9:45:25 GMT
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Post by endersai on Nov 22, 2018 10:24:50 GMT
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Post by Divait on Nov 25, 2018 15:55:00 GMT
Shiiiieeeeet
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Post by Sunken on Nov 26, 2018 7:58:08 GMT
Was there some technical error or something since both DAMS cars stalled at the same time
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Post by Teme on Nov 26, 2018 9:11:55 GMT
Was there some technical error or something since both DAMS cars stalled at the same time no the clutch on F2 cars is just shit
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Post by Sunken on Nov 26, 2018 11:41:45 GMT
Was there some technical error or something since both DAMS cars stalled at the same time no the clutch on F2 cars is just shit How come other cars were fine
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Post by Teme on Nov 27, 2018 8:55:43 GMT
no the clutch on F2 cars is just shit How come other cars were fine the clutch being shit doesnt mean that everyone is going to stall
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Post by Sunken on Nov 27, 2018 13:27:54 GMT
How come other cars were fine the clutch being shit doesnt mean that everyone is going to stall how come it's only the DAMS cars stalling then if the clutch is shit in every car (as you said, F2 cars)
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Post by OfMikeAndMen on Nov 27, 2018 13:56:38 GMT
the clutch being shit doesnt mean that everyone is going to stall how come it's only the DAMS cars stalling then if the clutch is shit in every car (as you said, F2 cars) probably because both their drivers fucked it :^)
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Post by Sunken on Nov 27, 2018 14:03:37 GMT
how come it's only the DAMS cars stalling then if the clutch is shit in every car (as you said, F2 cars) probably because both their drivers fucked it :^) could be but that's why i thought it might be an issue with the cars since it would be a weird consequense
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Post by OfMikeAndMen on Nov 27, 2018 14:12:40 GMT
probably because both their drivers fucked it :^) could be but that's why i thought it might be an issue with the cars since it would be a weird consequense F2 is a spec series though, no? so they should all have the same clutch
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Post by Teme on Nov 27, 2018 18:42:18 GMT
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