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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 12:18:48 GMT
Last night on PS3 i Got taken out, and the guy who took me out waited for me, but due To me crashing i bumped someone else and he crashed as well. I drove on, should i have waited for the guy that i hit due To me getting hit? No if you get knocked into someone else you don't have to wait.But the person who knocked you into them should wait.
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Post by del on Apr 8, 2015 14:45:39 GMT
Last night on PS3 i Got taken out, and the guy who took me out waited for me, but due To me crashing i bumped someone else and he crashed as well. I drove on, should i have waited for the guy that i hit due To me getting hit? No, the guy that hit you should have waited for both of you as it was his fault. Unless you hit the other person while coming back onto the track then you should've waited.
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Post by KoBo_043 on Apr 13, 2015 9:11:38 GMT
Last night on PS3 i Got taken out, and the guy who took me out waited for me, but due To me crashing i bumped someone else and he crashed as well. I drove on, should i have waited for the guy that i hit due To me getting hit? No, the guy that hit you should have waited for both of you as it was his fault. Unless you hit the other person while coming back onto the track then you should've waited. But what if you crash alone, and before you get of the racingline someone crashes into you? Is it his own fault for not avoiding me, or my fault for not moving out of the way in time?
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Post by tjezc☻ on Apr 13, 2015 9:37:13 GMT
No, the guy that hit you should have waited for both of you as it was his fault. Unless you hit the other person while coming back onto the track then you should've waited. But what if you crash alone, and before you get of the racingline someone crashes into you? Is it his own fault for not avoiding me, or my fault for not moving out of the way in time? If he was really close behind, you should definitely let him pass, because there's a good chance you could not be avoided anymore. So giving them the position they should've gotten is only fair. When someone did not even start the corner yet when you crashed (several seconds behind I suppose), it's their lack of awareness that caused them to hit you, so you can continue as normal.
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Post by Archer on Apr 15, 2015 5:32:04 GMT
While I was racing earlier, I ran into this one odd situation. While I was rounding a corner and heading faster than a nearby person, I went inside, while the person also tried to go inside. As such, while I was rounding the corner, I head-oned his car in the front quarter panel, causing him to lose control and go wide, but not spin out or anything like that. I felt like it was his fault, because he turned into my car, so I continued on. Thinking back on it, I'm not really sure whose fault it was. Anyone care for some input?
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Post by KoBo_043 on Apr 16, 2015 6:54:31 GMT
Hard to call from text only. Was he trying to keep his line? Were you besides eachother before the corner or did you fly in from the back? Happens to me sometimes too, where I'm not sure whos wrong. But it's not like there's a FIA wavin' around with 10k fines fortunately The way you've described it it sounds like he hit you, so I would've probably continued aswell. I usually look at it per situation. For example if it's a 1v1, and because of something like that there's a 15s gap, I'll wait anyway just to keep it interesting. Not always in the mood for hotlapping.
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Post by cameronman1329 on Apr 23, 2015 17:52:30 GMT
Just feel there are a lot of people that still don't follow these rules. Pretty much everyone on the forums from PS4 and in the Skype chat follow these rules, but it's the less-known crew members that I feel don't do it. It's not like the mean to hit you off, but their lack of experience, race craft and awareness means that they get into crashes all too often and don't often wait. It's been annoying me for some time, I'm starting to get extremely frustrated by it, to the point for the first time since I've joined any NoDo crew (which was back in August for NoDo 2) I purposely pitted another racer in anger of taking me out and driving off. It wasn't a one off for this racer either, he has done the same multiple times to me and a few others I know have said it's happened to them. I shouldn't have done it, I've apologised to the guy in a PSN message who hasn't replied, although he didn't wait so I don't what he's thinking, but the annoyance of people who are less experienced driving off when crashing into you without waiting is something that has gotten to me the past couple of months. I haven't raced for a day or two since then, and I might extend that to a few more days. I feel this is happening all too frequently for my liking, the same people aren't learning, and I don't want to get subjected to this anymore. I'll take maybe another day off from racing or two, or if I go back sooner I'll just invite the people who follow these rules, i.e. the majority of NoDo. It's the small majority of inexperienced drivers that are ruining races for me. I'm not gonna compete at the top every race, maybe here and there, but I'm not as quick as some of these guys, but when my chance for a good position of having a tight battle with another racer is ruined by someone who doesn't wait, it's pretty disheartening. If they waited I would have little issue, but they don't wait.
Anyway mini-rant over.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 18:20:23 GMT
Just feel there are a lot of people that still don't follow these rules. Pretty much everyone on the forums from PS4 and in the Skype chat follow these rules, but it's the less-known crew members that I feel don't do it. It's not like the mean to hit you off, but their lack of experience, race craft and awareness means that they get into crashes all too often and don't often wait. It's been annoying me for some time, I'm starting to get extremely frustrated by it, to the point for the first time since I've joined any NoDo crew (which was back in August for NoDo 2) I purposely pitted another racer in anger of taking me out and driving off. It wasn't a one off for this racer either, he has done the same multiple times to me and a few others I know have said it's happened to them. I shouldn't have done it, I've apologised to the guy in a PSN message who hasn't replied, although he didn't wait so I don't what he's thinking, but the annoyance of people who are less experienced driving off when crashing into you without waiting is something that has gotten to me the past couple of months. I haven't raced for a day or two since then, and I might extend that to a few more days. I feel this is happening all too frequently for my liking, the same people aren't learning, and I don't want to get subjected to this anymore. I'll take maybe another day off from racing or two, or if I go back sooner I'll just invite the people who follow these rules, i.e. the majority of NoDo. It's the small majority of inexperienced drivers that are ruining races for me. I'm not gonna compete at the top every race, maybe here and there, but I'm not as quick as some of these guys, but when my chance for a good position of having a tight battle with another racer is ruined by someone who doesn't wait, it's pretty disheartening. If they waited I would have little issue, but they don't wait. Anyway mini-rant over. Inb4 cam kicked for dirty racing At the moment the best thing is to just report them.Maybe get a few videos of their dirty driving.It's hardly the best solution but it's the only one you've got for the time being.I think the problem is not dirty drivers trying to take you out but people being overly aggressive and then not waiting(cough Stream lobby's cough).It's not a problem with most members but I've seen it cropping up a bit recently.
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Post by bergax2 on Apr 23, 2015 20:26:04 GMT
That is a problem and everyone has been affected by it at some point. I think the best way to handle it is to message and talk with the person that is messing up, reporting is also viable but I do have some reserves about it. I always assume good faith unless it's clear the other is being a dick. Personally to avoid ruined races I keep my random lobby small, usually 6-7, and kick everyone that is not Nodo or sb. I'd take a smooth 6 player race over a 30 player crashfest all day everyday. Obviously this does not apply to crew events, if only I could take part.
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Post by Trowa on Apr 27, 2015 11:26:34 GMT
The one move rule is real people. Stop weaving to block. Its flat out dirty racing. If and only IF you managed to stay completely in front of someone down a straight is it ok to gradually return to the racing line but weaving all over the fucking track like the old lady from the end of Ferris Bueller's Day Off is not cool. Bit annoyed with people trying to run me off the road to block lately. Mostly because its happening almost exclusively on LONG staightaways where there is no excuse whatsoever.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2015 14:18:30 GMT
The one move rule is real people. Stop weaving to block. Its flat out dirty racing. If and only IF you managed to stay completely in front of someone down a straight is it ok to gradually return to the racing line but weaving all over the fucking track like the old lady from the end of Ferris Bueller's Day Off is not cool. Bit annoyed with people trying to run me off the road to block lately. Mostly because its happening almost exclusively on LONG staightaways where there is no excuse whatsoever. Agreed, very important rule to keep in mind. It's just another cause of avoidable collisions. Am I correct, that Broughy has said his preference is to follow the racing rules set in Formula 1? These are the guidelines I follow: 1) One move to change the racing line is allowed on a straight or approaching a corner. 2) In a braking zone, a driver is required to keep his current racing line. Do not drive like this scrub in this video!
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Post by bergax2 on May 12, 2015 20:37:18 GMT
In the last few weeks I've found quite a bit of people that weave and block on straights but all it took was a quick conversation or messaging to make them realize their mistake or clear a misunderstanding. People here are reasonable but not everyone, expecially newcomers who don't really follow motorsport or never played a racing game, knows about the rules that make clean racing and I don't expect every random Nodo I meet on track to since this crew is open. As far as I know those people I met are now racing more properly, which is good not only for them, but for everyone who shares their races.
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Post by TFTL_Remix on May 18, 2015 12:35:42 GMT
In the last few weeks I've found quite a bit of people that weave and block on straights but all it took was a quick conversation or messaging to make them realize their mistake or clear a misunderstanding. People here are reasonable but not everyone, expecially newcomers who don't really follow motorsport or never played a racing game, knows about the rules that make clean racing and I don't expect every random Nodo I meet on track to since this crew is open. As far as I know those people I met are now racing more properly, which is good not only for them, but for everyone who shares their races. I know who you're on about here and yes I have told this person also. He has now improved on how he defends when coming off a straight. He doesn't do it with me anymore because I screamed down the mic at him and he learn his lesson, we became racing partners after that too hahaha:')
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 11:12:35 GMT
I had a accident yesterday. We were tree cars driving 3 parallel lines with a half car spacing between each of us. The car in front was taking the line of the car in the middle, forcing that car to take the line of the last car. The problem was that the last car didn't have space to get out of the way, and was forced to continue and take the middle car out. Should the third car break in this situation or who made the mistake in?
What are the rules about lines? As far as I remember, you can take whatever line you want as long as you are half a car length in front of the car behind you. Right?
I'll try to paint this when I come home.
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Post by KoBo_043 on May 19, 2015 12:23:42 GMT
(talking 'bout the lefthander @ mt. Haan during the practice run?) if so and I remember correctly you were the 2nd, me 3rd. I couldn't brake in time, and spun you out. Was indeed a little confusing, and I didn't really know what to do, so I just waited.
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