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Post by LancerEvoWRC on Aug 22, 2014 15:47:25 GMT
Didn't see this tread until now. I would like to join this race. What was the date? I am in group one or two. I have a F620. It's great looking, but not the nicest to drive. I think the Jacal is a more forgiving car. Set me up in #1. I usually end up last with the guys I mostly race with.
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Post by OpalescentFalcon on Aug 22, 2014 15:50:19 GMT
double_s92 I don't mean weaving left and right at all. It's hard to explain but I'll try again lol. Say for example I'm on a straight, the next turn is a right and someone is behind me. I choose to go in the middle (the defensive line) of the track and not all the way to the left (the racing line). Once I am there it is obvious what my intentions are. I am then allowed to slowly (not suddenly, and I am not weaving, I am gradually moving right to left over a long distance) move back over towards the racing line preventing an easy overtake as long as I leave the width of a car to the left of me. As the car in front it is not up to me to make sure I don't hit you by defending, it is up to the car behind not to hit me by attacking. I leave a cars width to the left so there is space for them on track, yet people still turn in (way too early anyway) and pit me even though I am ahead of them. That is the fundamentals of defending an overtake on a straight (not 100% sure in other motor sports because I only follow F1). And if you do manage to get past me round the outside then I yield and you have successfully overtaken me. Rules in racing are always, If you're front wheels are ahead of mine, that is your line and I am in no right to attack. I brake, you go through and I challenge you somewhere else on the track. The thing with racing is that almost everything is open to interpretation, especially with this game and the differences on two peoples screens. So yeah, If we are racing and anyone reading this is going for an overtake on me at some point, just know that this is how I defend my position and I will always try my best to make you work hard for your overtake I am happy to take this debate elsewhere if you don't want me cluttering your thread ♛ZeNzI23 Yes. That's what i meant. I use F1 rules too, no weaving. Maybe this needs to be moved to another thread. I noticed that some nodo drivers consider that they have corner priority as soon as they get to the inside of you and their front tire reaches your rear tire. Would be nice to have some clear cut answers so we all race to the same rules.
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Post by ♛ZeNzI23 on Aug 22, 2014 16:31:13 GMT
Pundip and OpalescentFalcon I think I'm misunderstood, of course you can defend your position in corners and before. But what I'm talking about is not blocking someone. Maybe its easier to explain with an example. Imagine you're on a long straight, person 1 has a feltzer and person 2 has a massacro. Person 1 exits the corner first, a 5 mile straight is ahead. We all know the massacro is a lot faster when it shifts to last gear so p2 will overtake eventually on the straight with more speed. P1 can't begin to weave or block p2 on the straight to not let him pass to defend his position. On the straight when there isn't a corner for sometime you need to stick to your line and if someone faster is coming trough he/she will need to change lanes to pass. But p1 can't block or weave intentionally to not let p2 pass. This is what I tried to explain, maybe i'll need to make it more clean in the OP LancerEvoWRC I haven't decided yet on the car for #2 with the spoiler update and some cars moving it's hard to know which one would be best. And tbh I think you're better suited for group #2. Think about it
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Post by ♛ZeNzI23 on Aug 22, 2014 16:42:32 GMT
is sunday better for people? saturdays a pain in the ass for me. im free every night but friday and saturday. if it has to saturday i can do it. it just involves pissing someone off. I'm sorry but on sunday there is already the creators choice playlist and there will always be people that can't so if don't lock a certain date now will it be harder for other people to know if they could compete or not. The hour could maybe move 1 or 2 hours later.
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Post by OpalescentFalcon on Aug 22, 2014 16:57:55 GMT
Pundip and OpalescentFalcon I think I'm misunderstood, of course you can defend your position in corners and before. But what I'm talking about is not blocking someone. Maybe its easier to explain with an example. Imagine you're on a long straight, person 1 has a feltzer and person 2 has a massacro. Person 1 exits the corner first, a 5 mile straight is ahead. We all know the massacro is a lot faster when it shifts to last gear so p2 will overtake eventually on the straight with more speed. P1 can't begin to weave or block p2 on the straight to not let him pass to defend his position. On the straight when there isn't a corner for sometime you need to stick to your line and if someone faster is coming trough he/she will need to change lanes to pass. But p1 can't block or weave intentionally to not let p2 pass. This is what I tried to explain, maybe i'll need to make it more clean in the OP LancerEvoWRC I haven't decided yet on the car for #2 with the spoiler update and some cars moving it's hard to know which one would be best. And tbh I think you're better suited for group #2. Think about it Guess we are all saying the same thing. By one defensive move i meant in this case that the feltzer driver chooses on which side he gets overtaken.
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Post by Shred_Ninja on Aug 22, 2014 17:26:37 GMT
I have found out that I cant do this weekend at all now, sorry guys
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Post by double_s92 on Aug 22, 2014 18:39:30 GMT
Pundip and OpalescentFalcon I think I'm misunderstood, of course you can defend your position in corners and before. But what I'm talking about is not blocking someone. Maybe its easier to explain with an example. Imagine you're on a long straight, person 1 has a feltzer and person 2 has a massacro. Person 1 exits the corner first, a 5 mile straight is ahead. We all know the massacro is a lot faster when it shifts to last gear so p2 will overtake eventually on the straight with more speed. P1 can't begin to weave or block p2 on the straight to not let him pass to defend his position. On the straight when there isn't a corner for sometime you need to stick to your line and if someone faster is coming trough he/she will need to change lanes to pass. But p1 can't block or weave intentionally to not let p2 pass. This is what I tried to explain, maybe i'll need to make it more clean in the OP LancerEvoWRC I haven't decided yet on the car for #2 with the spoiler update and some cars moving it's hard to know which one would be best. And tbh I think you're better suited for group #2. Think about it Guess we are all saying the same thing. By one defensive move i meant in this case that the feltzer driver chooses on which side he gets overtaken. Although said feltzer driver in my books is allowed to change 'lanes' once before the massacro driver gets close...to choose how he wants to take the corner, but before not when both are next to each other or one is right on the others ass. That will cause a collision. I do agree with everyone that if you are next to me and only at my rear wheel, I will turn in and it's up to the attacker to yield. If it's on the other side then it's fine but again if your only up to the rear wheel on the exit of the corner I don't think I should have to yield to let you by around the outside.
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Post by parksguard on Aug 23, 2014 0:12:45 GMT
I cannot do Sundays.
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Post by ChrisDE22 on Aug 23, 2014 13:54:43 GMT
Sing me up, class 3
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Post by ♛ZeNzI23 on Aug 24, 2014 17:55:33 GMT
So far there are 5 submitted tracks. If someone still wants to add a track to test, you've got still a couple of hours. Your own creation, R* created/verified or someone else his/her creation. One of these will be the track for the endurance.
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Post by CantDrive55Andy on Aug 24, 2014 19:17:54 GMT
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Post by thefroc on Aug 25, 2014 1:10:23 GMT
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Post by Doodle on Aug 25, 2014 1:23:27 GMT
I'll be in Group 3. Not sure why I didn't sign up before. Also for the last car, may I recommend the Oracle? We could have an entire lineup of Ubermachts!
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Post by motogp77 on Aug 25, 2014 6:06:42 GMT
I love to run for group 3 psn MaryW33Djane_420
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 9:51:27 GMT
I'm down. Sign me up for #1 seeing as I'm well out of practise, and I'll save some time by making my submission for a track right now: Davis/Dutch London Endurance CircuitAlso, can we make hitting lamp posts/street lights often a negative attribute, and waiting for people who crash off of your fallen posts positive? It seems that direct contact is discussed a lot on this forum, but indirect contact can slide relatively easily.
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