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Post by Brady on May 21, 2016 2:37:24 GMT
The pre-lobby was a friends only session, don't always rely on the host to invite you. We spent at least 10-15 mins in race lobby which I invited everyone from the current session many times. So, today your a fault for not joining. Use this as a future lesson. It's the mans first time hosting a event so you can expect him to be nervous and maybe forget to invite a person in the heat of the moment. It was a joke, I said earlier I couldn't participate. I didn't see that then :derp: |
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Post by Shadyfruit on May 21, 2016 4:52:39 GMT
Got the feeling that not everyone from GT3 were familiar with the Blue Flag rules, the cars in the slower classes are NOT allowed to actively defend there positions  It's possible that this happened, but the track was very tight, and it's the faster cars responsibility to pass the slower cars safely. The slower cars can hold the racing line if they want to, which was probably wise to do on this tight track. Personally I tried to give the faster cars some room when it was possible, better to lose a bit of time on this, than losing a lot because you get rammed off the road  Did avoid getting knocked out, except Lawsons takeout(no hard feelings  ) |
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Post by Shadyfruit on May 21, 2016 4:53:34 GMT
Thank you to everyone who participated I would like to apologise to those who dropped out and also apologise for the poor choice of track but I can say I enjoyed it and will definitely learn from my mistakes. GG to scrazor92 Ishan mountainged for winning their respective classes. Also I would like to thank detoxx for starting the race. Now one last thing the small team part of the event was a draw between egochaser racing and Buckingham racing now we could leave it at that but egochaser did win two classes so who wins,? Or should we keep it a tie? I would say ego won than. Where did Truffade finish? I got third place in GT3, but since I was the only driver from Truffade it didn't go very well |
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Post by KoBo_043 on May 21, 2016 5:03:09 GMT
My race went as expected. Got shoved into a tree on the very first straight (Orange Buffalo?), and no-one waited. No problem though, it was hectic, maybe he got shoved into me, didn't quite see it. Tried to keep up to the pack. Went pretty well, untill the unavoidable chokeritis kicked in. So I had done my 3 pitstops in the first half of the race allready, so thought if I push I might not get last. But yeah, chokeritis again. In the end got really distracted by katenhond2010 (who must have a cramped tongue after a race too  ). With a 1m+ gap in front and back I pulled over and tried to sort that (and smoke a cig ) and my menu bugged, so couldn't get back in the game right away. Did have fun chasing a couple of guys, and sorry for not paying attention enough when being lapped. (The horn idea used in MCEC atm actually makes being lapped easier for everyone.) Overall it was fun. Not too much chaos in the pre-lobby, not too many no-shows and didn't notice a lot of drama. GG people! gbob10, nicely done for a first event man! |
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Post by katenhond2010 on May 21, 2016 5:57:50 GMT
Got the feeling that not everyone from GT3 were familiar with the Blue Flag rules, the cars in the slower classes are NOT allowed to actively defend there positions There was no blue flag rules, only when being lapped by thesame GT. Being unable to overtake a GT3 because there is no room doesn't automatically mean he is defending. I'm pretty certain that happend in the race. |
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Post by katenhond2010 on May 21, 2016 6:09:12 GMT
I really had the feeling 60% of all the quicker GT's had no clue how lapping a GT3 works. Ofcourse because of the track it's incredibly difficult but the things I witnessed were just pathetic.
And Ishan I don't mean our incident. You were literally the only one who apologized from the 5-7 people who drove me off the track somehow. And with you it was a lot of lagg, while all the other incidents were caused by impatience and unawareness how multi class racing works.
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Post by shinx aka MyComingBack on May 21, 2016 7:18:26 GMT
Got the feeling that not everyone from GT3 were familiar with the Blue Flag rules, the cars in the slower classes are NOT allowed to actively defend there positions It's possible that this happened, but the track was very tight, and it's the faster cars responsibility to pass the slower cars safely. The slower cars can hold the racing line if they want to, which was probably wise to do on this tight track. Personally I tried to give the faster cars some room when it was possible, better to lose a bit of time on this, than losing a lot because you get rammed off the road Did avoid getting knocked out, except Lawsons takeout(no hard feelings ) I had no problem with lapping you, there were just some some GT3 drivers who took the inside line at every turn which was quite annoying. Btw Lawson also destroyed me after he pushed me into a tree in which I was stuck for like 10 seconds -_- |
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Post by gbob10 on May 21, 2016 7:46:09 GMT
Thanks everyone again and all the criticism ( constructive ) has been taken on board and once I've polished up the main thread, it should be in completed events
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Post by detoxx on May 21, 2016 7:55:58 GMT
I think people need to stop complaining about the track, it should work fine. Yes it is tight, but that shouldn't be an issue. Yes there are trees with awkward hitboxes, but if you stay on the road, you won't hit them. Kerb boosting is at your own risk. Please stop complaining about the track, the reason this hasn't gone so well is because of a lack of skill/racecraft/patience from some people. I haven't had issues with lapping traffic (apart from people making mistakes in front of me) because I know, as a GT1 driver, that I need to be patient and that it's my responsibility to get past slower GT's without incidents. If there's no room to overtake you wait, even if you might get overtaken by someone behind you or lose time. Another issue was people not knowing/understanding the rules in multi class racing. Some people didn't know that slower GT's don't have to get out of the way, and some people didn't know that there's still a blue flag if you get lapped by someone in the same GT. We have racing guidelines for a reason, and people are expected know about it. I agree with mmmmmmmmost of this. Personally, I hate the kerb boost, because it makes the thing unaesthetic and somewhat ridiculous. So everyone going for it and choking, deserves it. So I can't quite understand the complaints about the props that were known beforehand... But I still can't quite NOT give out on the track for this occasion, because not everyone is experienced in MCE or even in large lobby races. I think the majority was quite new to MCE racing, and while GTAO in general holds a whole lot of jawdropping quick drivers, this does not not necessarily make them a good racer. We see throughout this thread that many people were not clear of how blue flags were applied, some didn't even know the track beforehand, which IMO is a no-no for such an event. So we did have a grid with quite a range of experience/skill. And for this the track did not turn out to be suited well, although I do like shorter tracks, because I just don't want to learn 74 corners ;-) I guess issues like these are quite normal when getting started with the MCE thing, like meself. But this does not release the participants from NOT recklessly rushing things in every friggin corner, somehow oblivious to the traffic, during a one hundred minute race. It was quite clear that overtaking would become difficult on this track. So it should be natural to understand that on some occasions one might have to wait for 2-3 corners before he can go. That's racing, too. So we will do much better if just all ease up a little bit on everything  |
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Post by criffin123 on May 21, 2016 9:20:11 GMT
After a hit in the second corner I was really pissed. And at first the one was driving away. Till I called him out. For me it was clear that he knows he hit me. So why he is driving forward? I also think if I didn't say anything he wouldn't have stopped either. That's not the racing I was expecting at NODO. Then the race went on and i think i didn't really good was 12th for the half of the race, some crashes but all in all a clean race. Then my little daughter knocked me out of concentration and I had to take her back to bed. Take me about 5 Minutes. And everything was gone. The rest of the race was quite and i could make my laps Thanks to the hoster gbob10 and also gratz to the winners!!! |
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Post by Ishan on May 21, 2016 12:50:39 GMT
At 19:25 you can see my brutal katenhond2010 lapping.. Looking back at the footage it looks like it disrupted trusk as well  |
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Post by Ishan on May 21, 2016 12:51:28 GMT
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Post by Ishan on May 21, 2016 12:56:20 GMT
I felt that my overtaking was good enough in this race, I got past the GT3s most of the time without any incidents, and let the GT1s by when I felt that they were quick enough to go by. The MCEC Blue Flag rules applied here, so you only have to let people in your own GT that are lapping you by. GT3s could have defended, and so could GT2s, but it would not be recommended.
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Post by AjAxel10 on May 21, 2016 18:26:47 GMT
At 19:25 you can see my brutal katenhond2010 lapping.. Looking back at the footage it looks like it disrupted trusk as well Imo that wasn't your fault. Lucas had an incident and was re-entering the track. He should've waited until there weren't any more cars coming. |
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Post by AjAxel10 on May 21, 2016 18:35:05 GMT
I think people need to stop complaining about the track, it should work fine. Yes it is tight, but that shouldn't be an issue. Yes there are trees with awkward hitboxes, but if you stay on the road, you won't hit them. Kerb boosting is at your own risk. Please stop complaining about the track, the reason this hasn't gone so well is because of a lack of skill/racecraft/patience from some people. I haven't had issues with lapping traffic (apart from people making mistakes in front of me) because I know, as a GT1 driver, that I need to be patient and that it's my responsibility to get past slower GT's without incidents. If there's no room to overtake you wait, even if you might get overtaken by someone behind you or lose time. Another issue was people not knowing/understanding the rules in multi class racing. Some people didn't know that slower GT's don't have to get out of the way, and some people didn't know that there's still a blue flag if you get lapped by someone in the same GT. We have racing guidelines for a reason, and people are expected know about it. I agree with mmmmmmmmost of this. Personally, I hate the kerb boost, because it makes the thing unaesthetic and somewhat ridiculous. So everyone going for it and choking, deserves it. So I can't quite understand the complaints about the props that were known beforehand... But I still can't quite NOT give out on the track for this occasion, because not everyone is experienced in MCE or even in large lobby races. I think the majority was quite new to MCE racing, and while GTAO in general holds a whole lot of jawdropping quick drivers, this does not not necessarily make them a good racer. We see throughout this thread that many people were not clear of how blue flags were applied, some didn't even know the track beforehand, which IMO is a no-no for such an event. So we did have a grid with quite a range of experience/skill. And for this the track did not turn out to be suited well, although I do like shorter tracks, because I just don't want to learn 74 corners ;-) I guess issues like these are quite normal when getting started with the MCE thing, like meself. But this does not release the participants from NOT recklessly rushing things in every friggin corner, somehow oblivious to the traffic, during a one hundred minute race. It was quite clear that overtaking would become difficult on this track. So it should be natural to understand that on some occasions one might have to wait for 2-3 corners before he can go. That's racing, too. So we will do much better if just all ease up a little bit on everything Yes I agree with you. Like other people said as well, it was mostly because of faster GT's being impatient. There was a wide range in terms of skill level, but that doesn't mean this track isn't suitable. If people are new to MCE racing, they at least need to know the rules. It doesn't take that much skill to follow these rules. Someone in GT1 (not saying names) was even screaming down the mic if people didn't get out of his way, that's just ridiculous. If we had 30 mcec-level racers, this track would've been fine. That's why I'm against blaming the track. |
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