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Post by Trowa on Nov 5, 2014 14:46:06 GMT
I deleted it because you were calling me bitter for stating some facts. I really have nothing to be bitter about and we had moved on from that topic anyways. No reason to bring it back up. Mystery solved Does this seem like a joke to you? Are you out of your mind? Censoring criticism? What the hell?! I asked if you guys were open to moving this up an hour (which is not an outrageous request, considering we moved an entire round back a week for Broughy). You quite snappily declined and then you got into a poitnless quarrel with Ser Tandur. I called your behavior bitter. What is wrong with that?! Nothing. I should not even have to justify myself to you. Can you explain what gives you the right? You could just say that this thread ain't the place to have this conversation, perhaps move the post elsewhere or solve it somehow, but silently removing the post? Unbelievable. I really dont feel my post is snappy at all. I stated my case. I dont see how you found my behavior to be bitter (def: (of people or their feelings or behavior) angry, hurt, or resentful because of one's bad experiences or a sense of unjust treatment.). Again I have nothing to be bitter about. I found your comment rude and disrespectful. It was not constructive in any way shape or form. It was just a shot fired at me unrightfully so. I guess I should of messaged you letting you know that I removed it but I am not censoring criticism, as there was none, only name calling. I simply removed a distasteful comment. I apologize for not alerting you. I admit that was an error. Should of said something but I really didnt think about it.
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Post by Renegade1911 on Nov 5, 2014 15:10:21 GMT
Does this seem like a joke to you? Are you out of your mind? Censoring criticism? What the hell?! I asked if you guys were open to moving this up an hour (which is not an outrageous request, considering we moved an entire round back a week for Broughy). You quite snappily declined and then you got into a poitnless quarrel with Ser Tandur. I called your behavior bitter. What is wrong with that?! Nothing. I should not even have to justify myself to you. Can you explain what gives you the right? You could just say that this thread ain't the place to have this conversation, perhaps move the post elsewhere or solve it somehow, but silently removing the post? Unbelievable. I really dont feel my post is snappy at all. I stated my case. I dont see how you found my behavior to be bitter (def: (of people or their feelings or behavior) angry, hurt, or resentful because of one's bad experiences or a sense of unjust treatment.). Again I have nothing to be bitter about. I found your comment rude and disrespectful. It was not constructive in any way shape or form. It was just a shot fired at me unrightfully so. I guess I should of messaged you letting you know that I removed it but I am not censoring criticism, as there was none, only name calling. I simply removed a distasteful comment. I apologize for not alerting you. I admit that was an error. Should of said something but I really didnt think about it. Well, maybe you should have said something. The fact that you didn't think about it or forgot isn't really an excuse. And me saying your being bitter is not name calling where I come from. It's called an observation. The fact it is negative comes from the fact of the matter, not because I'd want to insult you. Your entire stance to this situation does seem bitter to me. Postponing an entire round for Broughy was not a problem, but you were the first one to shut down my plea. Not because some actual reason why you can't make it an hour earlier, but because "we are commited". Here it looks like you're trying to use responsibility and righteousness to single me out. We did commit to this series, yeah, but I could not know whether I'll be free 9 weeks in advance. I was trying to work out a solution, not dictate a change of time. And I don't want your apology for you not alerting me, I don't care about that. I want you to acknowledge that you should not have deleted that comment at all. If you want to oppose a comment about you, you get some other moderator to let both sides speak for themselves and decide, you don't just delete it yourself. We are trying to be a friendly and open crew here. You deleting that comment at this time and in this situation is shady in the very least.
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Post by Trowa on Nov 5, 2014 15:25:11 GMT
I really dont feel my post is snappy at all. I stated my case. I dont see how you found my behavior to be bitter (def: (of people or their feelings or behavior) angry, hurt, or resentful because of one's bad experiences or a sense of unjust treatment.). Again I have nothing to be bitter about. I found your comment rude and disrespectful. It was not constructive in any way shape or form. It was just a shot fired at me unrightfully so. I guess I should of messaged you letting you know that I removed it but I am not censoring criticism, as there was none, only name calling. I simply removed a distasteful comment. I apologize for not alerting you. I admit that was an error. Should of said something but I really didnt think about it. Well, maybe you should have said something. The fact that you didn't think about it or forgot isn't really an excuse. And me saying your being bitter is not name calling where I come from. It's called an observation. The fact it is negative comes from the fact of the matter, not because I'd want to insult you. Your entire stance to this situation does seem bitter to me. Postponing an entire round for Broughy was not a problem, but you were the first one to shut down my plea. Not because some actual reason why you can't make it an hour earlier, but because "we are commited". Here it looks like you're trying to use responsibility and righteousness to single me out. We did commit to this series, yeah, but I could not know whether I'll be free 9 weeks in advance. I was trying to work out a solution, not dictate a change of time. And I don't want your apology for you not alerting me, I don't care about that. I want you to acknowledge that you should not have deleted that comment at all. If you want to oppose a comment about you, you get some other moderator to let both sides speak for themselves and decide, you don't just delete it yourself. We are trying to be a friendly and open crew here. You deleting that comment at this time and in this situation is shady in the very least. I have shit to do Sunday morning. You sound bitter that I cant make it a hour early. You are assuming a lot here and making some pretty heavy accusations. This truly is not the place for this.
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Post by Renegade1911 on Nov 5, 2014 15:31:59 GMT
Well, maybe you should have said something. The fact that you didn't think about it or forgot isn't really an excuse. And me saying your being bitter is not name calling where I come from. It's called an observation. The fact it is negative comes from the fact of the matter, not because I'd want to insult you. Your entire stance to this situation does seem bitter to me. Postponing an entire round for Broughy was not a problem, but you were the first one to shut down my plea. Not because some actual reason why you can't make it an hour earlier, but because "we are commited". Here it looks like you're trying to use responsibility and righteousness to single me out. We did commit to this series, yeah, but I could not know whether I'll be free 9 weeks in advance. I was trying to work out a solution, not dictate a change of time. And I don't want your apology for you not alerting me, I don't care about that. I want you to acknowledge that you should not have deleted that comment at all. If you want to oppose a comment about you, you get some other moderator to let both sides speak for themselves and decide, you don't just delete it yourself. We are trying to be a friendly and open crew here. You deleting that comment at this time and in this situation is shady in the very least. I have shit to do Sunday morning. You sound bitter that I cant make it a hour early. You are assuming a lot here and making some pretty heavy accusations. This truly is not the place for this. Is handing out words and not accepting them back the way you want to handle this? Are you really making this about me, and not about you deleting a comment at your own will?
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Post by Trowa on Nov 5, 2014 15:44:00 GMT
I have shit to do Sunday morning. You sound bitter that I cant make it a hour early. You are assuming a lot here and making some pretty heavy accusations. This truly is not the place for this. Is handing out words and not accepting them back the way you want to handle this? Are you really making this about me, and not about you deleting a comment at your own will? I only used the word bitter because you did. You truly seem pissed off that I have things to do. Which is really silly considering Broughy shutdown the idea anyways. Its pointless to carry this on any further. I dont know what your problem was with me in the first place. Read my original response to you and its in no way "bitter" nor are any of my responses to Tandur. They are just facts. If you want to discuss this further you can PM me or we can chat on xbox or skype but this is not the place for this.
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Post by Renegade1911 on Nov 5, 2014 15:55:52 GMT
Is handing out words and not accepting them back the way you want to handle this? Are you really making this about me, and not about you deleting a comment at your own will? I only used the word bitter because you did. You truly seem pissed off that I have things to do. Which is really silly considering Broughy shutdown the idea anyways. Its pointless to carry this on any further. I dont know what your problem was with me in the first place. Read my original response to you and its in no way "bitter" nor are any of my responses to Tandur. They are just facts. If you want to discuss this further you can PM me or we can chat on xbox or skype but this is not the place for this. Oh my god. I don't care what you do on Sunday, I'm FINE with you not wanting to move it. That is not the point of this argument at all, nor are our opinions of your original response. It is about you abusing your power as a moderator. You're not steering this anywhere from that, and that is also why I want to talk this out publicly.
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Post by Trowa on Nov 5, 2014 16:01:22 GMT
I only used the word bitter because you did. You truly seem pissed off that I have things to do. Which is really silly considering Broughy shutdown the idea anyways. Its pointless to carry this on any further. I dont know what your problem was with me in the first place. Read my original response to you and its in no way "bitter" nor are any of my responses to Tandur. They are just facts. If you want to discuss this further you can PM me or we can chat on xbox or skype but this is not the place for this. Oh my god. I don't care what you do on Sunday, I'm FINE with you not wanting to move it. That is not the point of this argument at all, nor are our opinions of your original response. It is about you abusing your power as a moderator. You're not steering this anywhere from that, and that is also why I want to talk this out publicly. Your comment deserved to be deleted and pretty much this entire convo between you and I should be deleted. None of it belongs in this thread and Im done responding to it.
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Post by vxwk on Nov 5, 2014 16:34:43 GMT
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Post by ChrisDE22 on Nov 5, 2014 17:37:44 GMT
So according to Trowa race pace in the Vigero is a mid 1:53, I am getting low 1:47s in a good lap and high 1:47s as avarage. Considering the Dominator is a hard car to drive I reckon a well driven Vigero might be able to keep up with a badly driven Dom.
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Post by Trowa on Nov 5, 2014 17:41:49 GMT
So according to Trowa race pace in the Vigero is a mid 1:53, I am getting low 1:47s in a good lap and high 1:47s as avarage. Considering the Dominator is a hard car to drive I reckon a well driven Vigero might be able to keep up with a badly driven Dom. Id say the pace is more high 1:53 low 1:54. The 1:52 feels like a 1 off lap at this point.
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Post by LancerEvoWRC on Nov 5, 2014 20:49:04 GMT
Broughy1322, for the endurance, could we block the lamp post and the short cut at cp 14. If you lack some skill that is the hardest corner at the whole track. We have raced this track for months and everybody, even the best racers, clips that post, or the lag takes it. I choose to go around it bc of the risk, but a more skilled driver blows by on the inside and gets a huge advantage on that. Since you have created this track just for the endurance and blocking up things like this is more common these days I think that would be a fair thing to do and we also get rid of that mayhem that corner often offers us.
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Post by rcracer11m on Nov 5, 2014 20:53:12 GMT
Im not involved in this series but I was wondering why you made it specific to one car in each class? I would've made the faster class open to any car in the class and the slow class have an approved list of cars to use if they're close in time like for sedans it could be the super diamond,surge,premier,and asea because their lap times were very close in the fully modded testing.I think it would introduce some variety into the races because different cars would have different strengths and weaknesses.
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Post by haydugjr on Nov 5, 2014 21:16:10 GMT
I choose to go around it bc of the risk, but a more skilled driver blows by on the inside and gets a huge advantage on that.
There are people better than me on this corner so I want their fast line blocked!
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Post by Trowa on Nov 5, 2014 21:18:16 GMT
I choose to go around it bc of the risk, but a more skilled driver blows by on the inside and gets a huge advantage on that.
There are people better than me on this corner so I want their fast line blocked! Have you got the game still? If not then Sugar_Free_Nos can replace you.
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Post by LancerEvoWRC on Nov 5, 2014 21:41:21 GMT
I choose to go around it bc of the risk, but a more skilled driver blows by on the inside and gets a huge advantage on that.
There are people better than me on this corner so I want their fast line blocked! Why bother trying, I knew this was coming...
I would like to hear Broughy1322 opinion on this. Why the short cut, is that more important than the lamp post that always lies in the street?
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