Dingleburns
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Post by Dingleburns on Feb 13, 2018 4:27:33 GMT
Crappy title aside, I've been having issues where I always choke and it costs me a race. It happened in Forza where I get placed pretty far up in the grid with a car I know, tuned, and race in constantly on a track I know like the back of my hand, then I hit a corner wrong and end the race in last. I hopped in the Staggered Sunday playlist this week to get my toes in the water (sorry if I used that phrase wrong, speaking isn't my native tongue), and didn't see the first page of racers once in the whole race. It was really depressing and really put me in a down mood. I noticed that it was because I kept choking up but I have no idea why. I should note that although I'm new, I have raced for a while, so it isn't inexperience causing my bad driving, which is why I'm posting this, because I am stumped on what I can do to improve. Edit: Serrenial was in the group so I wasn't winning regardless  |
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Post by RJSlow on Feb 13, 2018 5:12:40 GMT
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Post by Benimi on Feb 13, 2018 7:55:55 GMT
I've started recording my races in a while back, and I always said to myself, if I choke I'll have to sign it up to the podcast and listen to Nos calling me bad.
It worked for me for, I had like 1 major choke in the last 10 month, when I had a ton of, before I started doing it.
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Post by eedo123 on Feb 13, 2018 13:40:09 GMT
I notice three groups of people for the most part in GTA racing when it comes to speed and consistency; 1) you have the people who can put out the really fast laps and can take a corner overall faster than most, but over a long race, they will make one or two mistakes that will cost them huge amounts of time, positions, or even the whole race, 2) then there are people who put in the average good lap times, but they can do it like a robot over and over for endless laps with minimal to no mistakes (I feel this is where i would fall under) 3) and lastly you have the people who can put out the insane fast lap times AND be consistent, and these are really the best drivers out there.
The main thing I wanted to point out is that, I think that you have to be a number 1 and number 2 driver at some point in order to be a number 3 driver. So if you are at the stage you are now where you are putting in fast laps but making mistakes, you should maybe try and dial it back and work on the consistent good lap times, and slowly adding more speed until you become the 3rd type of driver. And the same should go with if you are the 2nd type of driver where you are just consistent all the time, you should start taking more risks (brake later, go wider) and pushing it more and seeing how much faster you can really go. Important thing is that you are trying to be better and that's all you can ask of any driver.
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Post by Merphos on Feb 13, 2018 14:50:41 GMT
From my experience in MCEC, where consistency is paramount, it is as much about having the correct mindset as it is about practise and doing enough laps for the track and car to become part of your muscle memory. In fact, I would say having the correct mindset is even more important.
I was absolutely driven to win MCEC and over the course of the season I would say I made perhaps about 5 completely unforced driving errors while driving on my own during approx 900 minutes of racing. I felt entirely in the zone and I think that showed with my results during the season.
However, in random playlists or events where I've reserved for people, I cannot always replicate that same form. No matter how many laps I've done. For the simple reason that I do not feel anywhere near as motivated to win. This is crucial. Personally I feel like I have more chance of winning a race that I am motivated for with no practise, than a race that I have no motivation for with 1000 practise laps.
So if you want to improve your consistency, then I suggest you try to find some motivation from within yourself that will focus your mind to put in good performances.
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Post by Dingleburns on Feb 13, 2018 15:31:20 GMT
I notice three groups of people for the most part in GTA racing when it comes to speed and consistency; 1) you have the people who can put out the really fast laps and can take a corner overall faster than most, but over a long race, they will make one or two mistakes that will cost them huge amounts of time, positions, or even the whole race, 2) then there are people who put in the average good lap times, but they can do it like a robot over and over for endless laps with minimal to no mistakes (I feel this is where i would fall under) 3) and lastly you have the people who can put out the insane fast lap times AND be consistent, and these are really the best drivers out there. The main thing I wanted to point out is that, I think that you have to be a number 1 and number 2 driver at some point in order to be a number 3 driver. So if you are at the stage you are now where you are putting in fast laps but making mistakes, you should maybe try and dial it back and work on the consistent good lap times, and slowly adding more speed until you become the 3rd type of driver. And the same should go with if you are the 2nd type of driver where you are just consistent all the time, you should start taking more risks (brake later, go wider) and pushing it more and seeing how much faster you can really go. Important thing is that you are trying to be better and that's all you can ask of any driver. In hindsight after reading your post, I agree. I notice now that during practice runs, races, etc. I always keep saying to myself, Do it faster. This is too slow. You'll be off-pace like that. I will take note of this for future racing. Thank you.
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Post by Dingleburns on Feb 13, 2018 15:32:54 GMT
So if you want to improve your consistency, then I suggest you try to find some motivation from within yourself that will focus your mind to put in good performances. All I do is try to win, hence my snarky comment of having to race against Serrenial during the daily. |
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Post by Ait on Feb 22, 2018 18:21:50 GMT
I am not one of those best people. I'm probably not even in that list of types of racers that eedo123 mentioned. But I just wanted to say that remembering to breath in real life is important to relieving stress. When I get nervous and sweaty hands in a race I just think to myself "Calm, just breath" and the stress subsides. That may not prevent you from choking or doing a mistake, but I believe it will help you to stay focused. Also, I would like to say, remember to have fun and smile: I find myself often doing my best when I simply just enjoy myself. I'm also drawing some concepts from my guitar training: relaxation and enjoyment has been crucial for my progress. But, of course, muscle memory is key!
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Post by daarnok on Feb 23, 2018 15:48:42 GMT
Don't put yourself against top drivers from the beginning, you may have been able to win easily against randoms but NODO is something entirely different. Give yourself more reachable goals and try to improve your general pace by just racing against crew members more (i.e. in the daily playlist) - that way you will learn more and more of the tracks and the cars. Secondly, especially on PC there are many tactics people use to gain an edge - kerb boosting, short shifting or brake boosting to name a few. Try to make yourself familiar with how these things work, these things can gain you lots of time on straights and acceleration in general. Maybe you did already know about kerb boosting but brake boosting is generally not known outside of NODO, nevertheless it's relatively easy to pick up with a bit of practice. Short shifting is probably the most advanced boosting tactic that I described here because gains are not directly visible. You definitely don't have to do all these things to be fast, but knowing about these things might be benificial in the end  |
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Post by Prismide on Feb 23, 2018 17:28:58 GMT
There is a few things on top of what Darnok said that you can do to get a lot more consistent. One is actually your car choice. Bumpy city track? A car with tire clipping and good suspension like an osiris or t20. The 'fastest' cars aren't always the most consistent. Another way to get consistent fast is with hot lapping tracks in high skill gap cars which suit the tracks. Turismo in hills, t20 in city etc. This is how I got to where I am over the last few years. Good luck
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Post by snake92r on Feb 24, 2018 22:12:31 GMT
thanks for sharing your points of view, I just hop in to have a good time and get better whilst trying not to make a mess  |
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