blowntyre
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Post by blowntyre on Feb 14, 2015 9:10:20 GMT
I have been racing with various members of NoDo and I am honestly gobsmacked by the pace and skill that most of you guys have. What I want to know is how do you drive so quick, is it just sheer practise, or do you understand how to the car handles over certain sections of track, or any other reason? I want to obviously get quicker at GTA racing, I perhaps make too many mistakes which costs me chances to win races (even though those chances are not very often ) Any tips you could share with the whole of NoDo will be great!
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Post by smitveedub aka inFamous_Smithy on Feb 14, 2015 9:27:47 GMT
Practice practice and a bit more practice i used to think exactly the same myself when i first started in nodo but now I'm a hell of alot quicker
when i first started out there was a track i really really liked and played it alot i set what i thought was a quick lap time in a zentirno and a few month back was playing on that same track in a sultan and beat my lap time in the zentorno in my sultan by 5 secs thats how much i had improved
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Post by TDWPMark on Feb 14, 2015 9:33:56 GMT
^What he said. Practice. Find an area of the map that you're good at in terms of racing and focus on that. When I first did Hit The Apex in a fully modded Elegy I did about a 4:40 lap, that was about 5 months ago and now I've got that time down to 4:01 simply by getting to know the track so well.
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R4C3RJK99
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Post by R4C3RJK99 on Feb 14, 2015 10:06:24 GMT
Practice is the most important part. I believe you need to be connected with your car. Your car is you best friend, you must know it inside and out. Racing to me, is like a sixth sense. I've been racing in video games since I was 5, I mean sim games like Richard Burns Rally, F1 challenge, plus I drive rc cars, I used to even hotlap bikes when I was younger. I watch a lot of racing, almost everyday. I know where I can improve my time, change my braking points, and just adjusting random stuff to get the perfect lap. Just spend time learning the track and get acquainted with your car. Practicing with other people helps, as you can learn and try their lines. I think I may take this too seriously
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James Two7
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Post by James Two7 on Feb 14, 2015 10:29:55 GMT
I find that if I don't race on GTA for even a few days in a row I'm considerably slower and more inconsistent. I think the more you play and the more you enjoy it the quicker you will become. Quitting because you're losing is the worst possible thing. You're just not going to suddenly go online one day and be good and beat everyone and sheer persistence tends to pay off eventually. Another important point that people who quit because they're losing fall foul to is track knowledge, which can almost be as important as practice.
Not entirely related to driving as fast as possible and this may sound rather counter intuitive but making mistakes is one of the best ways to improve your consistency, which in turn will allow you to drive faster. Whenever you crash, try look at what caused it to happen and, especially if you're last and have little to play for, try something new on the corner you crashed on such as a different line. This is one of the reasons I love to learn new tracks on the game because you crash a lot initially and have to take a different approach after each lap to try to solve the problem. I remember having a terrible crash on The North Loop once where my car took off and went head on into a tree. I've never made that same mistake again because I took a step back, looked at how it happened and adjusted my line through the corner.
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fox4flame
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Post by fox4flame on Feb 14, 2015 10:39:15 GMT
I will point you to broughy's real life racing and racing school video. They explain everything you need to know also,knowing how everycar behaves, what're their braking points, capabilities is very important. I, myself, am new to racing but watching broughy's videos and racing with awesome crew members I think I have improved quite alot in this short amount of time. Also find a track you like, get on there, memorize its everything. After sometime with the track you will start notice ideal racing line, braking points, where to defend, attack and doing this with diffirent cars you will start understanding the diffirences of cars as well. Here is the link to broughy's channell : www.youtube.com/user/hwkabroHope I didn't bore you
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Post by jbcarfreek on Feb 14, 2015 11:19:32 GMT
The ony thing that broughy's video doesn't really cover is dynamic weight distribution with is what the super quick guy's use. for the rest take the corners tight when you dont know the track and just follow the basic principle op turing like he explanes and make shure you dont slide afther the apex, all the speed in racing is earned be accelerating out of a corner, sometimes even more than carrying the speed trough it.
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averageloz
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Post by averageloz on Feb 14, 2015 11:36:53 GMT
Use the cars your comfortable with, use your throttle to slow down instead of your brake as much as you can. The other thing is track knowledge, if you know every little bit about a track, you'll be a lot faster, try and follow people's lines through corners, find the route that works for you!
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Shred_Ninja
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Post by Shred_Ninja on Feb 14, 2015 12:41:17 GMT
The what now JB? haha
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2015 13:17:09 GMT
Observation is your friend. I am still a good way off the pace of most top racers but when I first joined NoDo, I still regularly lost in random lobbies and was 7-10 seconds off the pace per lap in NoDo races. I'm not a car/motorsport guy and to some extent not even a big player of racing games but I love online racing in GTA and I found my best weapon was studying people better than me obsessively.
The tiniest difference in breaking points and how wide you approach a corner can make all the difference. Sometimes I'll think I've mastered a corner but then I'll be behind a guy in a race who takes the approach a fraction wider and brakes a tenth of a second before me and I copy that on the next lap and find the apex of the turn straightens up so much more and can gain you as much as a second which over the course of a race is huge. It's easy to watch one of Broughy's videos and think you take basically the same line as him through a lap then wonder why he can get lap times that are 5 seconds quicker than yours - one thing I've learned is that "basically the same line" isn't enough. You really have to pay attention to the finest little details to get the best lines and shave seconds off your lap times. I'm still a long way off but learning all the time.
This is by no means a definitive guideline but for me, a guy who knows next to nothing about competitive motorosport, my only weapon is my observational skills and being able to study much better racers.
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FlushStroke
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Post by FlushStroke on Feb 14, 2015 14:24:44 GMT
Join IGN crew, load up rockstar/rockstar verified tracks and just practice against randoms. Don't worry about your pace too much, just drive comfortably without making mistakes/crashing. Your pace will start coming naturally as you learn the tracks/racing lines/general driving practice. If you race NoDo all the time, chances are you'll just end up getting frustrated while crashing trying to keep up when all you're wanting to do is learn. Similar to a thread I made when I was learning to rotate the camera into corners when I changed my racing style, I hit a low point that almost made me want to give up racing altogether. The reason I say this is because someone writing a thread like this sounds like they are getting a bit fed up. link to said thread, link to a playlist where I race randoms for practice/fun My YT playlist These are just my tips obviously, but they work for me.
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Post by Mr_Chewbacca1138 on Feb 14, 2015 14:40:40 GMT
I will point you to broughy's real life racing and racing school video. They explain everything you need to know also,knowing how everycar behaves, what're their braking points, capabilities is very important. I, myself, am new to racing but watching broughy's videos and racing with awesome crew members I think I have improved quite alot in this short amount of time. Also find a track you like, get on there, memorize its everything. After sometime with the track you will start notice ideal racing line, braking points, where to defend, attack and doing this with diffirent cars you will start understanding the diffirences of cars as well. Here is the link to broughy's channell : www.youtube.com/user/hwkabroHope I didn't bore you This!! Practice is good but not if you are hammering in bad habits. Learn the basics by watching the videos THEN practice good technique. Thats what I did, I got a lot better, still lose a lot but I get the bronze in NODO races a lot, finish mid pack most of the time.. Sometimes I finish dead last but I still have fun doing it.
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EderForty
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Post by EderForty on Feb 14, 2015 18:01:15 GMT
The first thing one needs to understand is how cars physics work. In particular, how can we make a car go from one point to another the fastest possible way. Some people have already pointed you to the racing school series by Broughy. I agree with them, watch those videos.
Once you know how cars behave, you need to learn the tracks you are going to race: start driving on a track focusing on not crashing nor going off. Once you are able to run without making mistakes, start working on improving the pace.
Some people see another one do laps 10 seconds faster than them and go straight for that kind of lap times. They fail, get frustrated and quit. As marklyell says, observe. But don't forget that you are your only rival: just try to beat your records slowly. Do not expect to shave 10 seconds off your personal best even if another driver can do it. It is not realistic.
My 2 cents, hope they help!
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Post by Trowa on Feb 15, 2015 0:00:20 GMT
The first thing one needs to understand is how cars physics work. In particular, how can we make a car go from one point to another the fastest possible way. Some people have already pointed you to the racing school series by Broughy. I agree with them, watch those videos. Once you know how cars behave, you need to learn the tracks you are going to race: start driving on a track focusing on not crashing nor going off. Once you are able to run without making mistakes, start working on improving the pace. Some people see another one do laps 10 seconds faster than them and go straight for that kind of lap times. They fail, get frustrated and quit. As marklyell says, observe. But don't forget that you are your only rival: just try to beat your records slowly. Do not expect to shave 10 seconds off your personal best even if another driver can do it. It is not realistic. My 2 cents, hope they help! I agree with this a lot. It definitely applies to when we were trying to show people our lines for LSGP and North Loop. A new guy would come in be way off the pace and just come to the conclusion "I suck" and never get better. Meanwhile (just an example) someone like uR Timer just grinded and grinded until she set the LSGP world record. When she started she was running over 10 seconds off the pace but by doing what Eder is saying she progressed rapidly on that track.
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Craig 9876
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Post by Craig 9876 on Feb 15, 2015 2:47:53 GMT
When I first joined Nodo, I thought I would be one of the best, up there competing all the time because when playing against randoms it was a breeze to say the least. I was wrong! In the beginning when racing with some of the Xbox players like Trowa, Kelevera, Malice and Twilicane etc. I realised I was 4-5 seconds off the pace. The way I improved was by racing these faster people all the time. Learning the cars over time will obviously lead to you becoming faster, but watching what faster drivers do, analysing there lines, watching them closely really helped me improve. I'm not the fastest but I like to think I'm above average. After driving around LS for the 1 and a half year period, you learn the roads pretty well, this also benefits your speed in races as you know the terrain. Winning against randoms may make you feel good, constantly losing to better drivers may make you feel bad. But once you beat these faster guys it is much more of an achievement than beating 100 randoms who can't drive. So, In my opinion the best way to become the best, is to beat the best, even if they beat you 100 times and you only beat them once
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