ovivoJR
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Post by ovivoJR on Feb 11, 2016 23:30:12 GMT
We here have to rely on the honesty of the driver. I was at the moment involved in some incidents myself and didn´t get a clear view on the situation. We know it better for the next race. Also if you feel like there is something wrong and I haven´t heard it you can just repeat it. Or have an investigation after the race. Last i will say of this but you where following the pack on the safety car when we called it out :/ proof: youtu.be/Wgsrup4u7Tg?t=8mlol at vixtro being confused (and possibly you it seems) at what me, cloud and darn was talking about. Grumples_Plox (grimreaper977) don´t be a dick honestly. We all make mistakes. And to be honest: "I don´t get it why did Superstepa get his position back" is not really what I am looking for. First off Superstepa_ should have reacted by speaking up on the teamspeak. Secondly I did say everybody needs to be in the position they were in when the safetycar was called out. Thirdly it is very hard to judge a situation being in 10th that has happend in 2nd. Last but not least you could have said something after the race and we could have dealt with it. Lol at you being confused about thinking Vixtro is talking about Superstepa while he was talking about Ganjalo. Also stop ranting around! I have clarified the rules so this doesn´t happen again. It is not like we don´t deal with these situations.
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Post by Oh_Darn on Feb 12, 2016 0:02:47 GMT
Last i will say of this but you where following the pack on the safety car when we called it out :/ proof: youtu.be/Wgsrup4u7Tg?t=8mlol at vixtro being confused (and possibly you it seems) at what me, cloud and darn was talking about. Grumples_Plox (grimreaper977) don´t be a dick honestly. We all make mistakes. And to be honest: "I don´t get it why did Superstepa get his position back" is not really what I am looking for. First off Superstepa_ should have reacted by speaking up on the teamspeak. Secondly I did say everybody needs to be in the position they were in when the safetycar was called out. Thirdly it is very hard to judge a situation being in 10th that has happend in 2nd. Last but not least you could have said something after the race and we could have dealt with it. Lol at you being confused about thinking Vixtro is talking about Superstepa while he was talking about Ganjalo. Also stop ranting around! I have clarified the rules so this doesn´t happen again. It is not like we don´t deal with these situations. Grim is not being a dick here, he is just pointing out an illegal move. What happened was: stepa choked, safety car was called out, or the other way around. Causing stepa to fall back to 5th after recovering, he then illegally retook his 2nd position under the safety car. That is what happened. Your "lol at you" reaction is out of place. Its better to edit that part out for your own credibility. If you want to take a closer look on what happened, check out my footage. And by saying that, I want to start an investigation on illegally reclaiming positions under a safety car period.
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st0cking
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Post by st0cking on Feb 12, 2016 0:08:39 GMT
Excuse me?
I mean the story with the overtakes after pits and safety car We had a safety car in satcc? I can't remember, it's all so hazy, my memories of that day.. something bad must've happened ..must not remember. #satcckicksf1inthebuttbecauseihadtochooseoneandichosesatccbecauseimnotgoodenoughforf1
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Post by Oh_Darn on Feb 12, 2016 0:12:41 GMT
I mean the story with the overtakes after pits and safety car We had a safety car in satcc? I can't remember, it's all so hazy, my memories of that day.. something bad must've happened ..must not remember. #satcckicksf1inthebuttbecauseihadtochooseoneandichosesatccbecauseimnotgoodenoughforf1 Thats one hell of a hashtag
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st0cking
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Post by st0cking on Feb 12, 2016 0:15:04 GMT
We had a safety car in satcc? I can't remember, it's all so hazy, my memories of that day.. something bad must've happened ..must not remember. #satcckicksf1inthebuttbecauseihadtochooseoneandichosesatccbecauseimnotgoodenoughforf1 Thats one hell of a hashtag Yeah, i dont want to sound cocky but it's a trending next-level premier hashtag. Gotta have one of those nowadays.
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ovivoJR
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Post by ovivoJR on Feb 12, 2016 0:20:55 GMT
Grumples_Plox (grimreaper977) don´t be a dick honestly. We all make mistakes. And to be honest: "I don´t get it why did Superstepa get his position back" is not really what I am looking for. First off Superstepa_ should have reacted by speaking up on the teamspeak. Secondly I did say everybody needs to be in the position they were in when the safetycar was called out. Thirdly it is very hard to judge a situation being in 10th that has happend in 2nd. Last but not least you could have said something after the race and we could have dealt with it. Lol at you being confused about thinking Vixtro is talking about Superstepa while he was talking about Ganjalo. Also stop ranting around! I have clarified the rules so this doesn´t happen again. It is not like we don´t deal with these situations. Grim is not being a dick here, he is just pointing out an illegal move. What happened was: stepa choked, safety car was called out, or the other way around. Causing stepa to fall back to 5th after recovering, he then illegally retook his 2nd position under the safety car. That is what happened. Your "lol at you" reaction is out of place. Its better to edit that part out for your own credibility. If you want to take a closer look on what happened, check out my footage. And by saying that, I want to start an investigation on illegally reclaiming positions under a safety car period. Oh_Darn thanks for the reply. Have you read Grumples_Plox (grimreaper977) his post? He is being a dick by the way he wrote his post: Last i will say... ; lol at vixtro...
I just referred to him the way he referred to Vixtro. Childish and out of place (totally agree with you Darn). What has Vixtro to do with Superstepa not giving back his position? Grim is not pointing out an illegal move, he is showing his dissatisfaction in a bad way. As I said, this seems to be a big deal for Grim so why didn´t he say something after the race? No he has to come out with this a week later when rule changes alread have been applied to avoid such situations in the future. To your investigation. Please sent me a PM (with a description of the situation) and videoproof of the situation. I will then ask independant officials to judge the situation.
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Post by endersai on Feb 12, 2016 0:23:09 GMT
Guys I just want to say I love you all <3
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Post by Oh_Darn on Feb 12, 2016 0:26:39 GMT
Grim is not being a dick here, he is just pointing out an illegal move. What happened was: stepa choked, safety car was called out, or the other way around. Causing stepa to fall back to 5th after recovering, he then illegally retook his 2nd position under the safety car. That is what happened. Your "lol at you" reaction is out of place. Its better to edit that part out for your own credibility. If you want to take a closer look on what happened, check out my footage. And by saying that, I want to start an investigation on illegally reclaiming positions under a safety car period. Oh_Darn thanks for the reply. Have you read Grumples_Plox (grimreaper977) his post? He is being a dick by the way he wrote his post: Last i will say... ; lol at vixtro...
I just referred to him the way he referred to Vixtro. Childish and out of place (totally agree with you Darn). What has Vixtro to do with Superstepa not giving back his position? Grim is not pointing out an illegal move, he is showing his dissatisfaction in a bad way. As I said, this seems to be a big deal for Grim so why didn´t he say something after the race? No he has to come out with this a week later when rule changes alread have been applied to avoid such situations in the future. To your investigation. Please sent me a PM (with a description of the situation) and videoproof of the situation. I will then ask independant officials to judge the situation. Ill do that tomorrow, hard to get it done right on my phone while laying in bed.. Dont think grim meant to be dick-ish though. But ill explain that as well. Lets not discuss this any further in this thread.
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Ganjalo
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Post by Ganjalo on Feb 12, 2016 1:37:19 GMT
I think ovivo has a point when he says stepa should have reacted too when he was called on TS by 3 people. Being the event host doesn't mean he's everywhere everytime, we have to deal with these issues ourselves. Asking for an investigation is OK, but blaming other people for mistakes they've done one week earlier isn't helping anyone...
My apologies for overtaking during safety car, I didn't realise at that time. Really not my intention to gain an advantage off this, I just felt like doing the less waves possible since the situation was quite messy already.
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Post by endersai on Feb 12, 2016 1:45:10 GMT
Yeah if I can just say, as an event host myself, the host is usually pretty preoccupied during the race and pre-race lobby so they may just miss things. That's why we always put it back on racers to call things out - call if you need s safety car, if there's an overtake which is suspect etc.
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Post by Superstepa_ on Feb 12, 2016 13:11:16 GMT
Just to clear up what happened and to explain why I reacted as I did... First of all I did not choke. I was rammed into the back. After that the safetycar was called out immediately (when I was still in 3rd or 2nd since Madderose had to wait for me). I decided to reverse out of the way to let people pass, instead of making them find another way around (which I could've done and easily remained in 2nd). After I had recovered from the crash I settled in 5th position behind cloud. Then I started to think that this wasn't exactly fair since Madderose was in 2nd while I was in 5th. At that point all I knew was that I had to be in front of Madderose and as I saw the three drivers in front of me after the hairpin going very slowly up the hill I figured that they knew what happened and were waiting for me to regain my position. Obviously I'm to blame for not speaking up on teamspeak... I figured that the people who saw the crash were aware of what had happened. If you ovivoJR want to give me a penalty for this then I'd be fine with it.
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ovivoJR
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Post by ovivoJR on Feb 12, 2016 14:25:55 GMT
Just to clear up what happened and to explain why I reacted as I did... First of all I did not choke. I was rammed into the back. After that the safetycar was called out immediately (when I was still in 3rd or 2nd since Madderose had to wait for me). I decided to reverse out of the way to let people pass, instead of making them find another way around (which I could've done and easily remained in 2nd). After I had recovered from the crash I settled in 5th position behind cloud. Then I started to think that this wasn't exactly fair since Madderose was in 2nd while I was in 5th. At that point all I knew was that I had to be in front of Madderose and as I saw the three drivers in front of me after the hairpin going very slowly up the hill I figured that they knew what happened and were waiting for me to regain my position. Obviously I'm to blame for not speaking up on teamspeak... I figured that the people who saw the crash were aware of what had happened. If you ovivoJR want to give me a penalty for this then I'd be fine with it. Thank you for pointing out your view of the situation. Currently there are no investigations running. You did everything right in this situation except one thing, you should have called out the person that crashed you to wait for you instead of regaining your previous position. That is all. Driving off the racing line to let others safely pass shows that you were aware of the situation. It was right that you waited till it was clear to rejoin the track. We can all learn from this for the next time.
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st0cking
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Post by st0cking on Feb 12, 2016 14:36:14 GMT
Just to clear up what happened and to explain why I reacted as I did... First of all I did not choke. I was rammed into the back. After that the safetycar was called out immediately (when I was still in 3rd or 2nd since Madderose had to wait for me). I decided to reverse out of the way to let people pass, instead of making them find another way around (which I could've done and easily remained in 2nd). After I had recovered from the crash I settled in 5th position behind cloud. Then I started to think that this wasn't exactly fair since Madderose was in 2nd while I was in 5th. At that point all I knew was that I had to be in front of Madderose and as I saw the three drivers in front of me after the hairpin going very slowly up the hill I figured that they knew what happened and were waiting for me to regain my position. Obviously I'm to blame for not speaking up on teamspeak... I figured that the people who saw the crash were aware of what had happened. If you ovivoJR want to give me a penalty for this then I'd be fine with it. Thank you for pointing out your view of the situation. Currently there are no investigations running. You did everything right in this situation except one thing, you should have called out the person that crashed you to wait for you instead of regaining your previous position. That is all. Driving off the racing line to let others safely pass shows that you were aware of the situation. It was right that you waited till it was clear to rejoin the track. We can all learn from this for the next time. grouphug!
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Post by Kaleeb42 on Feb 12, 2016 16:54:26 GMT
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Post by The_Bad_Loser on Feb 12, 2016 19:01:10 GMT
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