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Post by CHILLI on Apr 20, 2017 17:22:12 GMT
weirdtwitter @ogfringe KingBlazeIVI guess I'll finally get a Brioso so I can make this neon color claim justice. If it turns out to affect the Brioso then it'll be known in this thread, but I still want to keep my document to things that apply to the majority of cars so I wont add it there.
JabelTo avoid posting multiple times in a row you can "select post" under in the gear icon menu of each post. When you then click on the orange "Reply" button it will put all of those quotes into the message for you. You can also use "horizontal rule" like I did between these two paragraphs if needed. That way you can address multiple messages without needing to spam the thread 
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Post by NicotheRider on Apr 20, 2017 18:07:14 GMT
I've been doing way too many laps on a track for an upcoming event in 4 different vehicles - I can safely say it's been about 700 laps now and I noticed better split times with stock transmission on T20 (also rear diffuser helps with understeer). Not only that, I kept nagging on the understeer cause it didn't allow me to fit into one of the corners at full speed and now I can do it. but don't take it too seriously, I'm not that fast anywayThe T20 won't get better lap times or split times with stock transmission. Period. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 18:10:45 GMT
I've been doing way too many laps on a track for an upcoming event in 4 different vehicles - I can safely say it's been about 700 laps now and I noticed better split times with stock transmission on T20 (also rear diffuser helps with understeer). Not only that, I kept nagging on the understeer cause it didn't allow me to fit into one of the corners at full speed and now I can do it. but don't take it too seriously, I'm not that fast anywayThe T20 won't get better lap times or split times with stock transmission. Period. The period at the end hurts my feelings. It worked for me, my splits halfway were about 0.5sec better with the stock transmission, I need to put it through more laps though cause I'm not sure if I'm not keeping the pace on the 2nd half or if the downside of stock transmission bites back and evens it out cause my best lap is only 0.050s apart. |
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Post by NicotheRider on Apr 20, 2017 18:21:33 GMT
Period! Period! Period!  Sorry, I had to do that now...  Maybe the corner you are talking about isn't even meant to be taken full throttle? Or your line through it is wrong? Your acceleration will be significantly hurt by using stock transmission. As will your lap times and split times and general driving experience. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 18:25:59 GMT
Period! Period! Period! Sorry, I had to do that now... Maybe the corner you are talking about isn't even meant to be taken full throttle? Or your line through it is wrong? Your acceleration will be significantly hurt by using stock transmission. As will your lap times and split times and general driving experience. I can only talk for this specific car on this particular track because that's where I felt the difference. I won't treat my feelings as a fact so let's ignore that it feels easier to drive the car in general. Split times don't lie though, I tested multiple cars on this track through and through over the past week and when I see a split time that's lower by 0.5 sec I know it's not me - I always take these corners basically the same way. I can safely say that I'm definitely not going slower because my average lap time has only improved so I'm at least getting the same avg. speed throughout the track. |
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Post by CHILLI on Apr 20, 2017 18:27:01 GMT
@grodo
At least consider using the 1st upgrade so you get that extra final gear. If you're able to hit top speed at any point around the track your laptime will be hurt even more without this.
Running downgraded cars can be good for learning though. I was "faster" when I ran Engine 2 in an event just because I wasnt ready for controlling the car at full power. As a result I had an easier time pushing the car to its limit and I was more consistent. Just dont forget to upgrade the car a step or two once you feel you've mastered its lesser powered state or you'll be outmatched by anyone capable of controlling a fully upgraded one.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 18:29:13 GMT
@grodo At least consider using the 1st upgrade so you get that extra final gear. If you're able to hit top speed at any point around the track your laptime will be hurt even more without this. Running downgraded cars can be good for learning though. I was "faster" when I ran Engine 2 in an event just because I wasnt ready for controlling the car at full power. As a result I had an easier time pushing the car to its limit and I was more consistent. Just dont forget to upgrade the car a step or two once you feel you've mastered its lesser powered state or you'll be outmatched by anyone capable of controlling a fully upgraded one. I'm definitely going to try out the other upgrades and involve some other top drivers but it's definitely something. It might be the track, or the car itself (a bug?) or just the way gear relation changes cause as far as I see I'm shifting earlier than with the final upgrade. |
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Post by CHILLI on Apr 20, 2017 18:35:56 GMT
I'm definitely going to try out the other upgrades and involve some other top drivers but it's definitely something. It might be the track, or the car itself (a bug?) or just the way gear relation changes cause as far as I see I'm shifting earlier than with the final upgrade. Maybe the shifts happen sooner, I havent payed much attention to that. But you will lose time by taking longer to change gear, because you'll be spending more time not accelerating at all than you would with full transmission. So I'm thinking that maybe the problem isnt the gear changes themselves but rather when and how much the power kicks in. What I'd suggest is going with full transmission + turbo and only downgrade the engine for the time being. That way if you can still manage to use the car's traction to its fullest you may still have the ability to make up some time in the corners rather than the straights. That's what I did and it worked way better than I expected. |
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Post by tronecolby on Apr 20, 2017 21:31:08 GMT
For anyone struggling with the V12, 900R or Dom RC, try out the mercie wheels from the sports category. Those wheels make those cars so much more stable. I tried it for a bit for Dom RC. It feels a bit better. |
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Post by mrboxman1 on Apr 20, 2017 22:24:22 GMT
I'm definitely going to try out the other upgrades and involve some other top drivers but it's definitely something. It might be the track, or the car itself (a bug?) or just the way gear relation changes cause as far as I see I'm shifting earlier than with the final upgrade. Maybe the shifts happen sooner, I havent payed much attention to that. But you will lose time by taking longer to change gear, because you'll be spending more time not accelerating at all than you would with full transmission. So I'm thinking that maybe the problem isnt the gear changes themselves but rather when and how much the power kicks in. What I'd suggest is going with full transmission + turbo and only downgrade the engine for the time being. That way if you can still manage to use the car's traction to its fullest you may still have the ability to make up some time in the corners rather than the straights. That's what I did and it worked way better than I expected. Once shortshifting comes into play, anything but race transmission will hurt your lap times in all scenarios. It might be easier to drive with stock transmission as your not slipping or oversteering, but once race transmission is mastered it will ultimately be faster. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 8:33:42 GMT
I guess I'll finally get a Brioso so I can make this neon color claim justice. If it turns out to affect the Brioso then it'll be known in this thread, but I still want to keep my document to things that apply to the majority of cars so I wont add it there. You're a braver man than me. If you want something to assist Jabel 's setup is the best as I've found so far |
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Post by jt33396 on Apr 24, 2017 1:19:03 GMT
I've noticed in the Coquette Coastline Clash and SAGTC that Coquette drivers like to remove the roof on the Coquette. Has anyone played around with the Coquette? It has alot of customization so it probably has a ton of set ups
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Post by NicotheRider on Apr 24, 2017 1:51:11 GMT
I've noticed in the Coquette Coastline Clash and SAGTC that Coquette drivers like to remove the roof on the Coquette. Has anyone played around with the Coquette? It has alot of customization so it probably has a ton of set ups I've driven the Coquette and Coquette BlackFin for COTM and played around with them quite a bit. Personally, I didn't notice a difference when having roof on or off. There could very well be a small difference, but to me it isn't enough that it actually bothers me. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2017 8:55:20 GMT
I've noticed in the Coquette Coastline Clash and SAGTC that Coquette drivers like to remove the roof on the Coquette. Has anyone played around with the Coquette? It has alot of customization so it probably has a ton of set ups Well a few guys doing the Children of the MoleHill on Xbox used the Coquette yesterday, I'll enquire with them. In theory, or at least what I've gathered it should lower the COM. I'm sure I'm not telling you something you don't already know. I've not driven the Coquette since the beginning of the game - so I'll ask about. |
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Post by CHILLI on Apr 25, 2017 15:27:26 GMT
weirdtwitter Jabel So I've tested the mentioned neon colors (blue, red, pony pink) and my regular (white) both with the setup mentioned in the quote above and my own barebones with the large spoiler and only side neons, the rest is stock. And I cant really say that I notice anything switching between them, it all depends on how I throw the car around. The Brioso seems to change sliding behaviour a little from low speed to high speed and I'm suspecting that's what Jabel has picked up on rather than the handling actually changing. My conclusion remains a grey area, but mostly inconclusive. I didnt notice any difference with body roll for the pink and as I was slowly getting used to the setup I was changing how I drove it around. So to sanity check I went back to the first color I tested at the end but still didnt feel any wiser. How the car will slide or roll depends on circumstance, not neon color.
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