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Post by Ishan on May 22, 2015 19:50:20 GMT
I find that the Kuruma flips over too much while rallying on off-road tracks with bumps and hills. Even an off road hairpin can cause problems. I think I should re-embrace the Sultan. What do you guys think??
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Post by Ishan on May 23, 2015 3:13:01 GMT
I SAID: WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?!!?
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Post by JS_90 on May 23, 2015 3:27:45 GMT
Have you tried the armoured version? It's slower and has less traction but its much heavier so it doesn't flip around the track.
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Post by Ishan on May 23, 2015 12:20:28 GMT
Have you tried the armoured version? It's slower and has less traction but its much heavier so it doesn't flip around the track. But the Sultan is faster than that. |
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Post by JamieJones77 on May 23, 2015 15:58:45 GMT
Have you tried the armoured version? It's slower and has less traction but its much heavier so it doesn't flip around the track. But the Sultan is faster than that. R* should just fix the kuruma |
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Post by Ser Tandur on May 23, 2015 22:18:52 GMT
It's been suggested to me by racers that are much more skilled than I am that you should remove the side skirts, as they can clip things (?). Personally, I race with them. To me the issue is finding the right groove on the dirt roads. They are by no mean level, and often have preexisting grooves dug into them. Knowing how to ride in them and when to turn is the key to not rolling the beast. Because of it's amazing grip on dirt, you can often save yourself from a slide by feathering the throttle, and makes using the handbrake on sharper hairpins very reliable.
I've been running the Kuruma regularly around Mt. Chiliad and Mt. Josiah, and also at the Redwood Lights Track. Sometimes the Sultan is better because there isn't enough room for the Kuruma to stretch it's legs. Just like a course on tarmac, the balance of corners (and bumps) versus straights decides who will win in a Kuruma vs Sultan battle.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 22:49:29 GMT
From what I can tell from having driven it in free-roam (I don't race much), the side-skirts don't appear to actually have collision masks  It feels like the center of mass is just way too high, I much prefer the Sultan  (I know nothing for sure though, don't quote me) |
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Post by Renegade1911 on May 23, 2015 22:49:39 GMT
It's been suggested to me by racers that are much more skilled than I am that you should remove the side skirts, as they can clip things (?). Personally, I race with them. To me the issue is finding the right groove on the dirt roads. They are by no mean level, and often have preexisting grooves dug into them. Knowing how to ride in them and when to turn is the key to not rolling the beast. Because of it's amazing grip on dirt, you can often save yourself from a slide by feathering the throttle, and makes using the handbrake on sharper hairpins very reliable. I've been running the Kuruma regularly around Mt. Chiliad and Mt. Josiah, and also at the Redwood Lights Track. Sometimes the Sultan is better because there isn't enough room for the Kuruma to stretch it's legs. Just like a course on tarmac, the balance of corners (and bumps) versus straights decides who will win in a Kuruma vs Sultan battle. Is that so? I'm pretty sure that aftermarket bumpers have unchanged hitboxed from their stock counterparts. Like a custom splitter won't be clipping anything the stock bumper wouldn't. I think the situation should be the same with side skirts. I'll test it if I remember it the next time I get on. |
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Post by Ishan on May 23, 2015 22:57:31 GMT
From what I can tell from having driven it in free-roam (I don't race much), the side-skirts don't appear to actually have collision masks It feels like the center of mass is just way too high, I much prefer the Sultan (I know nothing for sure though, don't quote me)Quoted |
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Post by Ishan on May 23, 2015 22:59:17 GMT
I switched back to the Sultan. Never really liked the Kuruma anyway, it got too annoying to keep flipping around in the middle of the track.
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Post by Archer on May 24, 2015 0:37:23 GMT
It's been suggested to me by racers that are much more skilled than I am that you should remove the side skirts, as they can clip things (?). Personally, I race with them. To me the issue is finding the right groove on the dirt roads. They are by no mean level, and often have preexisting grooves dug into them. Knowing how to ride in them and when to turn is the key to not rolling the beast. Because of it's amazing grip on dirt, you can often save yourself from a slide by feathering the throttle, and makes using the handbrake on sharper hairpins very reliable. I've been running the Kuruma regularly around Mt. Chiliad and Mt. Josiah, and also at the Redwood Lights Track. Sometimes the Sultan is better because there isn't enough room for the Kuruma to stretch it's legs. Just like a course on tarmac, the balance of corners (and bumps) versus straights decides who will win in a Kuruma vs Sultan battle. Is that so? I'm pretty sure that aftermarket bumpers have unchanged hitboxed from their stock counterparts. Like a custom splitter won't be clipping anything the stock bumper wouldn't. I think the situation should be the same with side skirts. I'll test it if I remember it the next time I get on. Aftermarkets bumpers and skirts do not have altered hitboxes. Best example of that is the Feltzer. Sometimes, the aftermarket rear bumper may appear to clip through the ground, and it doesn't affect performance at all. |
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Post by Trowa on May 24, 2015 5:18:23 GMT
Spoilers have different hitboxes but the body mods do nothing. This is particularly obvious if you own a feltzer bc all of its body mods clip through the ground. Sultan is more consistent due to better suspension, Kuruma has ultimate pace. Until someone comes along that can consistently outpace my sultan Ill stick with it because I dont enjoy rolling around like a pig in the mud. I also dont really do a lot of rally-x tracks but everytime I have on 360 my Sultan does more than enough to beat people who spend WAY more time than me off-roading.
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Post by Ser Tandur on May 24, 2015 8:21:03 GMT
Until someone comes along that can consistently outpace my sultan Ill stick with it because I dont enjoy rolling around like a pig in the mud. I also dont really do a lot of rally-x tracks but everytime I have on 360 my Sultan does more than enough to beat people who spend WAY more time than me off-roading. That's a skill-gap issue, not a representation of car performance. You know that. The fact is just no one is even close to being on your level. |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 8:36:31 GMT
Is that so? I'm pretty sure that aftermarket bumpers have unchanged hitboxed from their stock counterparts. Like a custom splitter won't be clipping anything the stock bumper wouldn't. I think the situation should be the same with side skirts. I'll test it if I remember it the next time I get on. Aftermarkets bumpers and skirts do not have altered hitboxes. Best example of that is the Feltzer. Sometimes, the aftermarket rear bumper may appear to clip through the ground, and it doesn't affect performance at all. I'm not so sure about that. I know that the front bumper of the Sandking changes the front clearance of that truck by a full foot or so. That vehicle is quite the extreme since we're talking inches or less with parts for sports cars, but the possibility of the mods actually affecting a car's clearance is very real. |
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Post by Trowa on May 24, 2015 17:36:14 GMT
Until someone comes along that can consistently outpace my sultan Ill stick with it because I dont enjoy rolling around like a pig in the mud. I also dont really do a lot of rally-x tracks but everytime I have on 360 my Sultan does more than enough to beat people who spend WAY more time than me off-roading. That's a skill-gap issue, not a representation of car performance. You know that. The fact is just no one is even close to being on your level. Maybe but I see the Kuruma drivers putting down better or equal laps to me. I just spend a lot less time flipping. Its the same reason I dont use the Felon for racing. Honestly if you saw me drive my Sultan off-road you would say I drive like a grandpa. half throttle at most 90% of the time. I did say until someone can consistently outpace me in a Kuruma I would use the Sultan. Meaning I KNOW the Kuruma is better, the Sultan is just easier to race in. Its like Rally X training wheels compared to the Kuruma. |
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It feels like the center of mass is just way too high, I much prefer the Sultan 
