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Post by Kesha_F1 on Dec 10, 2017 9:28:49 GMT
We know ghost had the trainer, but he is aware of it and says he removed it before the race. No evidence was seen that his driving was not legit or the trainer was still installed, and considering the 100+ laps of practice he did, we do not have any reason to suspect he is illegitimate. He's been part of the community for a little while now and has not caused any problems. Furthermore Kesha_F1 , if you so feel the need to quote our rulebook, may I direct you to Rule 5) No Naming and Shaming - we do not approve of you making a public post like this claiming the wrong doing of another player, it is expected that reports are privately sent to the staff for review. It's seems you defend cheater. Believe the Β«gentlemanΒ» for a word? Β«Oh guys, I deleted the cheats! True, true!Β» - i spend so much time for fight these assholes. He could not remove the cheats without leaving the game. Did you know that he uses cheats and did not tell other participants that a guy with them will go with them, who honestly, honestly, will go without cheats? With whom do I privately discuss this problem? It is - with no one and a public demonstration - the only way to tell the community that they can not be 100% sure of the cleanliness of the drivers. False charges of using cheats? No. Check archive. Did OG_Space_Ghost use cheats? Yes. Should he be disqualified for using cheats? Yes. This is the logical decision when a player is caught using cheats.I was struck by incredible arrogance when I saw the use of cheats in the event. I believe that his victory is a cheat. Do you somehow follow the use of cheats in races? If there are suspicions, demand from the pilot mandatory stream races! Can you personally confirm that he did not use cheats in race? Obviously you can not. You can not guarantee the purity of OG_Space_Ghost. You can perfectly see what is in the screenshots - this is the use of cheats during the event. As honest players have to trust people who say: we know that he is cheating, but everything is fine. P.S. I also have a lot of laps on this track.
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Post by Sunken on Dec 10, 2017 10:53:28 GMT
We know ghost had the trainer, but he is aware of it and says he removed it before the race. No evidence was seen that his driving was not legit or the trainer was still installed, and considering the 100+ laps of practice he did, we do not have any reason to suspect he is illegitimate. He's been part of the community for a little while now and has not caused any problems. Furthermore Kesha_F1 , if you so feel the need to quote our rulebook, may I direct you to Rule 5) No Naming and Shaming - we do not approve of you making a public post like this claiming the wrong doing of another player, it is expected that reports are privately sent to the staff for review. It's seems you defend cheater. Believe the Β«gentlemanΒ» for a word? Β«Oh guys, I deleted the cheats! True, true!Β» - i spend so much time for fight these assholes. He could not remove the cheats without leaving the game. Did you know that he uses cheats and did not tell other participants that a guy with them will go with them, who honestly, honestly, will go without cheats? With whom do I privately discuss this problem?Β It is - with no one and a public demonstration - the only way to tell the community that they can not be 100% sure of the cleanliness of the drivers. False charges of using cheats? No. Check archive. Did OG_Space_Ghost use cheats? Yes. Should he be disqualified for using cheats? Yes. This is the logical decision when a player is caught using cheats.I was struck by incredible arrogance when I saw the use of cheats in the event. I believe that his victory is a cheat.Β Do you somehow follow the use of cheats in races? If there are suspicions, demand from the pilot mandatory stream races! Can you personally confirm that he did not use cheats in race?Β Obviously you can not. You can not guarantee the purity of OG_Space_Ghost.Β You can perfectly see what is in the screenshots - this is the use of cheats during the event. As honest players have to trust people who say: we know that he is cheating, but everything is fine.Β P.S. I also have a lot of laps on this track.Β I donβt get what youβre trying to achieve by joining our crew and falsely accusing people without any solid proof, but it sure isnβt working. If you donβt like our rules you can leave and go harass someone else. FriendlyBaron is a commissioner so he most likely knows what heβs talking about. Edit: Gentlemanβs rule or whatever itβs called is used in this crew because we want to be loyal here. Also OG_Space_Ghost is Baronβs friend so yes, he can ask about the cheats in person if he wants to.
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Kesha_F1
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Post by Kesha_F1 on Dec 10, 2017 12:56:45 GMT
I donβt get what youβre trying to achieve by joining our crew and falsely accusing people without any solid proof, but it sure isnβt working. If you donβt like our rules you can leave and go harass someone else. FriendlyBaron is a commissioner so he most likely knows what heβs talking about. Edit: Gentlemanβs rule or whatever itβs called is used in this crew because we want to be loyal here. Also OG_Space_Ghost is Baronβs friend so yes, he can ask about the cheats in person if he wants to. Solid proof? Okay: Cheater OG_Space_Ghost. On screenshots he used cheat weapon snowballs, fire extinguisher. Archive cheater-og-space-ghost.zip - 1.89 Mb So he broke 2nd rule Glitching, Modding, and Exploits GuidelinesHe must be DQ in event for used cheats. No warranty what he not used cheat in the race. He can used micro-boost. Compare his times with GT1. Β« Event hosts should ensure the rules are made clear on what is an isn't allowed in their events if the trainer is to be an aspect of itΒ». I enabled the trainer in the freemode, pre-race lobby, gave myself snowballs, then closed and removed the trainer from my game. Yes, i know it seems sketchy, and yes i was questioned by a few people and i knew it would get brought up again, and i did, and would again like to make it abundantly clear that i was not using any sort of cheats during the event. So take your words back, about Β«falsely accusing peopleΒ». He confirm what he used cheats and repeat he can't removed it from game without leaving. I remember what he join, when beta invite us in race lobby. Next step. I did not join your team, but registered as a member. I read your forum for a long time - there is a lot of useful information. I wrote somewhere that I do not like the rules? Do not fantasize. I fixed the fact of using cheats during the event and report here. I did not know that you are loyal to cheaters during events. Ask the cheater, whether he cheated during the race - the most ridiculous and useless occupation. I can accept that a gentlemen's agreement can work, for example, on unconditional use of 60fps, but that it applies to cheaters. If FriendlyBaron friend of OG can be explains a lot. I know the line of behavior in such relationships. Friend always defend and support friend. But i respect FriendlyBaron for his activity for our biggest racing community. The first wow effect, when we gathered before the race, quickly passed. I saw the use of cheats. This is very disappointing. When you get ready, you're going to take part in a good event and see that someone is playing cheats. For the whole day I did not hear the organizer's comments, and by the way I wrote to him in PM. He only evaluates the messages, but does not answer the questions asked. Perhaps it is hard to deprive a friend of victory who fell on the use of cheats and yet he personally confirmed this information. I asked questions about the topic, but received no answer, except rudeness. I note that I did not insult anyone and I was not rude.
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Post by esquz on Dec 10, 2017 13:45:55 GMT
What a joke this is. Some months ago people were threatened to be banned for having a mod menu installed in the daily playlist, now we know someone used a mod menu but he gets defended. w We can't know if he used it in the race yes, but if space ghost could upload his pov proving he is innocent that would solve the whole situation
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Post by Sunken on Dec 10, 2017 13:49:44 GMT
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Kesha_F1
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Post by Kesha_F1 on Dec 12, 2017 8:00:07 GMT
Two days passed and we would like to hear a decision on the disqualification of the cheater from the protocols of the race.
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Post by beta1hit on Dec 12, 2017 9:18:38 GMT
Two days passed and we would like to hear a decision on the disqualification of the cheater from the protocols of the race. I've talked to ghost in a PM. He is definetly aware that he might get disqualified if he doesn't bring sufficient proof. Also, not everyone has the time to play (or do stuff that is similar to play) every day. Ghost has a fixed deadline (will not name it here, you'll have to wait); when this deadline has passed, he will be disqualified if he didnt' submit proof that he didn't cheat.
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Post by Kesha_F1 on Dec 12, 2017 17:10:35 GMT
When his deadline? You can send me via PM? It will be 100% private.
I can not publish a review of this race at our EFO without knowing the final results.
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Post by Sarah on Dec 12, 2017 19:02:21 GMT
When his deadline? You can send me via PM? It will be 100% private. I can not publish a review of this race at our EFO without knowing the final results. This event wasn't organized to fill EFO's needs. Beta is the organizer and this is a NODO event. I have 100% faith that Beta has this under control. You have no need for special insight in a private matter between a participant and event host until that information is made public, which it will be soon.
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Post by Kesha_F1 on Dec 13, 2017 5:50:40 GMT
When his deadline? You can send me via PM? It will be 100% private. I can not publish a review of this race at our EFO without knowing the final results. You have no need for special insight in a private matter between a participant and event host until that information is made public, which it will be soon. You are not right. Reread the messages of the participants and organizers after my report about the cheating. First they claimed that the space monkey was not cheating, and everything is fine. This was done by your team-mate. Then they asked for the full proof that I provided in the first message. I do not understand why my screenshots are not evidence? You yourself saw that they threw snowballs and by the way, you were next to him during the shots. After a little dialogue on this topic, I decided to visit the TS and accidentally found out that there is a discussion of his actions in the race. Moreover, space money lied about the fact that he removed the cheat before the race. But in order to remove it, you have to completely quit the game, and he did not. Further. In the private discussion of Space Monkey, probably his friend and your team-mate FriendlyBaron took part. And he is an interested person. Obviously, after a day of silence, I took this, as a plausible opportunity, to descend on the brakes and hope that they will forget about it. That's why I asked me to notify the PM of the deadline, because I am also an interested person (caught a cheater and sent a report to the organizers), as well as FriendlyBaron. I'm almost 100% sure that he knows about the timing and it's unfair to other participants. In similar situations (fortunately, they arose very rarely) in racing championships, this was decided very harshly. And if there is a report, then it was considered and decided in the interval between 24 and 48 hours after the race. Strike the iron while it's hot. And the last. This event fully satisfied the needs of the EFO. Otherwise, we would not participate in the race. We are extremely thoughtful about participating in various events. We need experience, clear rules and follow-up of their participants. For many years we have learned to separate the grain from the chaff. Therefore, we are here on NoDo. You have a rich and eventful history community. You have gone from beginners to professionals. In our practice, we always cover major events that occur in the life of EFO. Therefore, the final results of the race are needed. Peace, Kesha_F1
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Innocuous_Barrel
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Post by Innocuous_Barrel on Dec 13, 2017 6:41:23 GMT
...lied about the fact that he removed the cheat before the race. But in order to remove it, you have to completely quit the game, and he did not... I was told to be silent until this is cleared up, but this more than anything is pissing me off (ignoring the unnecessary name-calling), and is verifiably untrue: giant.gfycat.com/DependableOddballFoal.webm
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Post by Kesha_F1 on Dec 13, 2017 7:36:29 GMT
...lied about the fact that he removed the cheat before the race. But in order to remove it, you have to completely quit the game, and he did not... I was told to be silent until this is cleared up, but this more than anything is pissing me off (ignoring the unnecessary name-calling), and is verifiably untrue: giant.gfycat.com/DependableOddballFoal.webmWait, what does it mean Β« until this is cleared upΒ»? Explain me, please. As far as I know, you have a deadline, and you're wasting time not to prove your result. I'm still confident that Voltic can not go with the average time on this lap, like Cyclone. Even using wheels, neon, curbs, irregularities on the road and at 60 fps. Even if you use the gamepad - it still did not make Voltic fly a lap for 1:26! I also hate to see when someone is using something that gives him an unreal advantage in the race. If you use cheats before the participants of the upcoming competition, it means that you always have the opportunity to use them during the competition. What you showed interesting. You had enough time to switch instantly between the windows and start the cheat again. How many minutes was the gathering of participants in the lobby and how many minutes had passed before the start? This video proves once again that you had an instant opportunity to reconnect the cheats and use them in the race.
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Post by Benimi on Dec 13, 2017 8:15:14 GMT
I'm still confident that Voltic can not go with the average time on this lap, like Cyclone. Even using wheels, neon, curbs, irregularities on the road and at 60 fps. Even if you use the gamepad - it still did not make Voltic fly a lap for 1:26! If we can give you a video of a totally legit lap, which is a 1:26, will you calm down just a bit? I know plenty of people who doesn't back off from a challenge like this
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Post by Kesha_F1 on Dec 13, 2017 8:37:44 GMT
I'm still confident that Voltic can not go with the average time on this lap, like Cyclone. Even using wheels, neon, curbs, irregularities on the road and at 60 fps. Even if you use the gamepad - it still did not make Voltic fly a lap for 1:26! If we can give you a video of a totally legit lap, which is a 1:26, will you calm down just a bit? I know plenty of people who doesn't back off from a challenge like this You want to drive instead of him? Do you know how to define the feelings of people in the text? I am calm and explain my position on the issue of the cheater. Apparently, someone does not really like that I do not forget about this case at the races. Organizers have not yet told how they will check the result. As I think, such incidents should be publicly discussed. Such tightening, silence, ignoring not going to benefit. I do not understand how you want to check it out. The lap on the empty track is different from the lap in the race, where there are other drivers. Why does not he defend himself, but instead join other people? Knowing that he cheater, he is obliged to record his race on video from the beginning to the very end. This removes almost all the accusations against him. But now none of you have any reason to believe him on the word - his video shows the possibility, how to turn off cheats (not to delete!), and turn on in few seconds.
Only in view of what you see, you can disqualify him from the race. This is unsporting behavior that violates the principle of equality and fair competition.
No one present can guarantee that he did not use cheats in the race.
P.S. The solution is simple: is there a video from the race? No - disqualified. And as we found out, the participants knew that he was using cheats.
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Post by Benimi on Dec 13, 2017 8:42:31 GMT
If we can give you a video of a totally legit lap, which is a 1:26, will you calm down just a bit? I know plenty of people who doesn't back off from a challenge like this I do not understand how you want to check it out. The lap on the empty track is different from the lap in the race, where there are other drivers. Yeah, it's slower, because you don't get some bullshit boosts from a full lobby. Which is a thing. You said it's not possible to get a 1:26. And I am pretty sure it is, without ever driving the car on that track.
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