Vixtro
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Post by Vixtro on Jun 29, 2015 15:58:37 GMT
Hi, I would like to apologize to Vixtro, you seemed very in anger on me  , it was not my intention to ruin your race, I thought to have made the right move but apparently that was not, so i'm sorry for that and i hope you will understand.  I wasn't angry, just annoyed because twice on the last lap you didn't leave enough room for me as we were going around bends, two abreast. The first time was coming down off the slip road, I'm on the inside and I could clearly see I didn't have enough room to avoid the safety barrier so I turned out, clipping your backend, making you spin a bit. I felt annoyed having to do that, but you didn't give me enough room so I had little choice otherwise I would've crashed into it and could've ended up hitting your car in a much worse way. The second time was coming into the last bend, in a fairly wide area, coming in two abreast, you didn't give me enough room and I couldn't judge the gap until too late so I ended up in the wall. As I said at the time, I don't mind slowing right down and giving way for these sorts of situations early on in a race, especially when in the pack and dealing with drivers clearly faster than me (such as yourself). Later on in a race though when things have spaced out, particularly the last lap, I will fight for whatever I can and will not back off when I see turns that can easily accommodate multiple cars abreast. |
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arken
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Post by arken on Jun 29, 2015 16:17:20 GMT
Ok, I'll be more careful next time  |
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buttercat
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Post by buttercat on Jun 29, 2015 19:47:39 GMT
I've participated in 2 racing playlists so far and I really hated the tracks, but most of all I couldn't stand the concept of daily racing you're promoting. You change the tracks a lot between playlists and few people even know the tracks/practice them. How can you expect clean racing when nobody knows the tracks? I think we should have a few playlists, maybe 2 playlists of 8-10 races, with every single one of those races carefully planned for clean racing and shared here for people to practice. With that in mind I made a playlist: socialclub.rockstargames.com/games/gtav/playlists/playlist/OPh0ogyZLUig---Lp7F8vAIf nothing changes then I surely won't participate in any more daily racing with NoDo and I will just keep racing with friends, it's a lot more fun anyway. |
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__Gandhi__
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Post by __Gandhi__ on Jun 29, 2015 19:51:34 GMT
I had my first experience on the second half of the daily playlist today. Wow you guys are quick ! I tried to stay out of the way as much as possible but even though I've read the racing etiquette thread on here, it was not always clear to me who should be giving way to whom, especially when four abreast approaching the freeway exit on GOH. And I admit on one occasion I forgot to check behind when rejoining the track (Can't remember the name, the one before GOH) and messed someone up. I did not catch the name but sorry whoever you were. I did make sure you got away before me though. About rejoining. Do you need to make sure the track is totally clear or is rejoining very slowly enough ? For example in the GOH race I was roughly mid-field coming down the hill towards the freeway and span off. I looked back and there was a constant stream of racers coming so by the time I rejoined I was second from last. Thanks for the racing and if anyone noticed me do anything else wrong let me know.  |
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bladecruiser
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Post by bladecruiser on Jun 29, 2015 20:23:27 GMT
It's sometimes really hard to know when it's safe to come back onto the track from a crash or even just a slight loss of traction, and I've found it to be better to err on the side of caution overall in an attempt to not screw up someone else's race due to my own mistakes. I know I try to do this whenever I notice someone I am battling with suddenly disappears from my radar, I'll try and ask if it was my fault and wait for them, or if I do happen to notice their dot veer wildly, I'll wait anyways on the off chance that I lagged and sent them off the track.
After all, this is just a game, and it's more fun when you're getting to race beside someone or in a pack with a bunch of people than being left alone because of a mistake someone made.
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Post by cloudmcshort on Jun 29, 2015 20:35:33 GMT
I've participated in 2 racing playlists so far and I really hated the tracks, but most of all I couldn't stand the concept of daily racing you're promoting. You change the tracks a lot between playlists and few people even know the tracks/practice them. How can you expect clean racing when nobody knows the tracks? I think we should have a few playlists, maybe 2 playlists of 8-10 races, with every single one of those races carefully planned for clean racing and shared here for people to practice. With that in mind I made a playlist: socialclub.rockstargames.com/games/gtav/playlists/playlist/OPh0ogyZLUig---Lp7F8vAIf nothing changes then I surely won't participate in any more daily racing with NoDo and I will just keep racing with friends, it's a lot more fun anyway. The reason this excists is for people to practice racing in general and have fun. There is no real competetive side of it, it's just for people to hop in, have a bit of fun, and just do some casual racing on an even level. I think that the reason behind the tracks changing is that everyone should have the same chance to win as everyone else. But in my experience, the reason this excists is for people to practice racing in general and being able to adapt to all situations, even though you have no experience with the track. Another thing, I think it's very much unnecessary to be rude towards the people who makes this possible. There are many people who actually enjoys these and are more in it for the fun and don't take it too seriously. I respect that you're trying to help improving it but I (and many others) think that it's working very well and I think your way of telling us that you dislike the concept might have been a bit wrong. If you don't agree with what I'm saying, feel free to send me a message here on the forum and we'll discuss it. Thanks. |
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buttercat
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Post by buttercat on Jun 29, 2015 20:41:40 GMT
I don't want to be rude but I won't censor my brutally honest opinion. Competitive racing is not what I was suggesting either, it's clean racing. Clean racing isn't possible without track experience.
I don't want to ruin your party, it's just my opinion.
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Post by cloudmcshort on Jun 29, 2015 21:15:08 GMT
I don't want to be rude but I won't censor my brutally honest opinion. Competitive racing is not what I was suggesting either, it's clean racing. Clean racing isn't possible without track experience. I don't want to ruin your party, it's just my opinion. I suppose that we have different opinions then, which doesn't have to be a problem. Just try to be more polite when expressing your opinion and people will respect it. |
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Post by rydacrystal on Jun 29, 2015 21:24:09 GMT
I've participated in 2 racing playlists so far [...] You change the tracks a lot between playlists and few people even know the tracks/practice them. How can you expect clean racing when nobody knows the tracks?[...] I think clean racing is very possible without knowing the track 100%. Btw. Clean doesnt mean that everybody is driving perfect on the racing line. I think Clean is meant for Fair Play. And you only raced 2 playlists and are complaining that you dont know the tracks? I think thats a bit early. When you race for a few days the playlist you know more than 80% of the tracks. And i love the variety of the tracks. When we would be racing the same track everyday i would quit after 2 days! I think pyro does an awesome job. So much credit to him for taking the time and selecting 10 or more tracks for every class every fu**ing day. You complain about a service nobody else can offer me in GTA. Its exciting every day to race these awesome tracks (I never played a Track i didnt like in the playlist. Never! And i hate all these boring Rockstar Tracks) and im excited when there are new tracks. I understand when people have the feeling they can not compete against the other drivers because they dont know the track. But that will automaticly change when you play the Playlist more often and like cloud said, its about the fun. When you only have fun when you know your Hotlap is 1:55min and are trying very hard to win there are lots of Events for really serious competition. (Sorry for my bad english) |
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meetmypyro
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Post by meetmypyro on Jun 29, 2015 21:49:12 GMT
I've participated in 2 racing playlists so far and I really hated the tracks, but most of all I couldn't stand the concept of daily racing you're promoting. You change the tracks a lot between playlists and few people even know the tracks/practice them. How can you expect clean racing when nobody knows the tracks? I think we should have a few playlists, maybe 2 playlists of 8-10 races, with every single one of those races carefully planned for clean racing and shared here for people to practice. With that in mind I made a playlist: socialclub.rockstargames.com/games/gtav/playlists/playlist/OPh0ogyZLUig---Lp7F8vAIf nothing changes then I surely won't participate in any more daily racing with NoDo and I will just keep racing with friends, it's a lot more fun anyway. thanks for sharing your opinion! you can set up your own events at the events->PC section. |
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method0ne
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Post by method0ne on Jun 29, 2015 21:55:27 GMT
I don't want to be rude but I won't censor my brutally honest opinion. Competitive racing is not what I was suggesting either, it's clean racing. Clean racing isn't possible without track experience. I don't want to ruin your party, it's just my opinion. As I stated in game, during a playlist while you were talking about this, the tracks used in the playlist are often repeated, and are made by nodo crew members for the most part with very few exceptions, look the creators up on RSC and bookmark their races to practice, it really isn't that difficult. As for clean racing not being possible without track experience, that's complete rubbish, I started with zero track knowledge and still don't know half of the tracks used and I'm still fairly competitive on them while racing clean, sure, I make mistakes, but I rectify those mistakes by letting people pass me or learning not to do it again. If you're unwilling to make even the slightest effort to either get the tracks yourself for practicing or to drive the first lap or two at a lesser pace the first time you see it then you really have no call telling others what they should or shouldn't do. This is Pyros playlist, he organizes it in his free time for our enjoyment, I for one am thankful for that, and while I might not be the best racer in the crew I appreciate the chance to race against some of the fastest drivers on PC and learn from what they do so as to raise my skill level. |
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buttercat
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Post by buttercat on Jun 30, 2015 5:06:55 GMT
The real reason I won't participate anymore is because most days I don't have time to play, I usually start playing when the playlist starts. I don't have time to practice and I know most guys who replied to me see mid-pack but I see the DNF pack.
I only got like 6 points for the first playlist I was in, some tracks had jumps before corners and things that I can't see without practice.
It's obvious at this point my opinion is not a popular one so I won't be making my own event. I don't have time for that anyway.
I'd also like to apologize about what I said about the tracks, the second playlist left me really upset.
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Post by endersai on Jun 30, 2015 5:48:01 GMT
I've said this before; When I was racing randoms I had a higher Win than Loss score and could slay them.
I joined NoDo and DNF'd a lot. I still do, but I've also finished 5th in a race of 12 ppl. I'm seeing improvements.
You need to be prepared to lose, you need to be prepared to feel humiliated (note: you feel this, the crew doesn't), you need to be prepared to ask for help, tips and feedback and you need to prepare to learn over time.
A dose of humility is excellent for the soul.
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bladecruiser
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Post by bladecruiser on Jun 30, 2015 7:17:43 GMT
It's understandable to be frustrated when first getting into the daily races and getting DNF alot. It took me the better part of two weeks to actually finish a race with NoDo guys when I first joined. Now I finish more often than not, and it's not nearly as frustrating since I'm making fewer mistakes and being more cautious about my driving until I've gotten a feel for the track and what car I'm in on that track.
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mrcleanup
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Post by mrcleanup on Jun 30, 2015 7:29:50 GMT
I had my first experience on the second half of the daily playlist today. Wow you guys are quick ! I tried to stay out of the way as much as possible but even though I've read the racing etiquette thread on here, it was not always clear to me who should be giving way to whom, especially when four abreast approaching the freeway exit on GOH. And I admit on one occasion I forgot to check behind when rejoining the track (Can't remember the name, the one before GOH) and messed someone up. I did not catch the name but sorry whoever you were. I did make sure you got away before me though. About rejoining. Do you need to make sure the track is totally clear or is rejoining very slowly enough ? For example in the GOH race I was roughly mid-field coming down the hill towards the freeway and span off. I looked back and there was a constant stream of racers coming so by the time I rejoined I was second from last. Thanks for the racing and if anyone noticed me do anything else wrong let me know. Speaking on waiting, my personal opinion is that you need to look where you are on the track itself and if you are in a spot where the racing line is not close to you then you should in theory be able to pull back out onto the track slowly and get back up to speed. If you are close to the racing line though, you do need to wait for a gap in the people to pull back out onto the track. If it is early in the race then this is most likely going to be at the back of the pack. It is unfortunate, but sadly a mistake was made and you can always make up a lot of spots by just keeping consistent. It is one of the biggest lessons to learn, speed will come with time. Consistency is the key to placing mid to the top of the leaderboards. Once you realize this then you will start placing higher in the results. Speaking on going 2 or more wide into turns, my personal opinion is judge the corner itself and see if said number of people will even fit that corner. If you are on the outside of the turn in this situation, I would brake early to get a good racing line into the corner and carry more speed to pass the people following the corner. If you are on the inside, then I would give you the advice of braking late to take the corner in the first spot of said group of people. Hope some of this was helpful, if you are looking for more advise we are always here to give our opinions, you just have to ask. |
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, it was not my intention to ruin your race, I thought to have made the right move but apparently that was not, so i'm sorry for that and i hope you will understand. 
