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Post by Oh_Darn on Mar 13, 2016 10:53:16 GMT
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Post by jeffreyb1990 on Mar 13, 2016 11:21:09 GMT
In my opinion the problem is that ppl are thinking they have the right to give the free spots away. But at the end it is up to the event host, so you have to contact him if you want someone to take your spot or the open spot in your team. Does the FIA or Ecclestone decide who replaces someone in the F1? Well maybe Ecclestone uses his influence and MONEY sometimes. So ovivoJR, where is my 10M?
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Post by st0cking on Mar 13, 2016 11:22:44 GMT
Just when i thought ovivo was one of the more reasonable people in this crew.. ┻━┻ ︵ ¯\ (ツ)/¯ ︵ ┻━┻ Sorry, couldn't leave this uncommented. I hope benimi and jeffrey won't be too sad about it, my thoughts are with them and their families. You can't be serious, right? Read the process of thought thoroughly 1. Pezby announcing his drop-out and saying he is being replaced by Chong 2. Fab.ICEMAN asking me to join CNT Racing as a comeback 3. Myself letting Chong know that Iceman is taking his spot on CNT and he will be getting the next free spot 4. Novesori suddenly announcing to drop out 5. Me posting that Chong can have his spot 6. Augury all of a sudden announcing that BigGamer takes the spot 7. Myself agreeing to it because there is still the spot of MCaesar for Chong 8. Then you posting that benimi will take the spot of MCaesar if he wants to Doesn't it sound reasonable for him to do what he promised to Chong? He had the rights on the Augury seat. He didn't get it and it didn't matter because there was a seat open in Jeffrey's team. If that wasn't the case, he would've been in Augury instead. So yeah, I totally understand Ovivo and I completely agree with him. I read it. And i think it was irresponsible to make that promise in the first place. And the way he just decided it instead of telling others about his "dilemma" and explaining himself first. He caused the issue in a way and then went dictator mode to solve it instead of talking about it like adults. Not surprised you agree with him, i'd expect you to do the same thing. I'm more surprised and disappointed that he did it the way he did, and i'm not even involved in it so i'm hoping it's not even worse for those who are involved, at least jeffrey seems to be fine with it now. edit: and I can see that he could decide that he does not want certain people in his championship but that was not one of those cases here
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Post by jeffreyb1990 on Mar 13, 2016 11:25:00 GMT
You can't be serious, right? Read the process of thought thoroughly Doesn't it sound reasonable for him to do what he promised to Chong? He had the rights on the Augury seat. He didn't get it and it didn't matter because there was a seat open in Jeffrey's team. If that wasn't the case, he would've been in Augury instead. So yeah, I totally understand Ovivo and I completely agree with him. I read it. And i think it was irresponsible to make that promise in the first place. And the way he just decided it instead of telling others about his "dilemma" and explaining himself first. He caused the issue in a way and then went dictator mode to solve it instead of talking about it like adults. Not surprised you agree with him, i'd expect you to do the same thing. I'm more surprised and disappointed that he did it the way he did, and i'm not even involved in it so i'm hoping it's not even worse for those who are involved, at least jeffrey seems to be fine with it now. Well I don't want to drop out. But if the SATCC wasn't over I would have.
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Post by Benimi on Mar 13, 2016 11:33:07 GMT
I hate this first-came-first-serve system so much, I'm going to abuse it.
I'm leaving this massage here, and if there is a spot avaible I'm going to quote myself, that I was here first.
I'm avaible for the spot, I'm up for the task, and I did some practice, and I going to do even more.
I'm not affraid saying that I'll going to do practice without a spot, I did that everytime so far, and I always missed the spot, even when I said it 3 weeks before, that I'm avaible, and I'm practicing. Why? Because I was pracising. Sounds fair.
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Post by jeffreyb1990 on Mar 13, 2016 11:38:10 GMT
I hate this first-came-first-serve system so much, I'm going to abuse it. I'm leaving this massage here, and if there is a spot avaible I'm going to quote myself, that I was here first. I'm avaible for the spot, I'm up for the task, and I did some practice, and I going to do even more. I'm not affraid saying that I'll going to do practice without a spot, I did that everytime so far, and I always missed the spot, even when I said it 3 weeks before, that I'm avaible, and I'm practicing. Why? Because I was pracising. Sounds fair. You are the victim of this whole situation and that's just not fair. So I think ovivoJR has to give you the first spot that opens up.
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Post by Dnl_Jackson on Mar 13, 2016 11:45:58 GMT
In my opinion the problem is that ppl are thinking they have the right to give the free spots away. But at the end it is up to the event host, so you have to contact him if you want someone to take your spot or the open spot in your team. Does the FIA or Ecclestone decide who replaces someone in the F1? Well maybe Ecclestone uses his influence and MONEY sometimes. So ovivoJR , where is my 10M? I'm 100% sure that the driver also not decides who will replace him. FIA at least have the right to refuse a replacement - as far as I know a team has to nominate the reserve drivers before the actual season. But I'm not sure about this. At the end we are not driving the real F1, so this discussion is quite useless. The event host has the right to refuse drivers for a reason. And I don't get why ppl are upset about this. Pls, host your own events and deal with all the drama and complaining then you might understand why some event host goes dictator mode at some point. People just don't stop with complaining. This reminds me at all the shit ender had to deal in satcc.
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Post by bladecruiser on Mar 13, 2016 11:54:05 GMT
I hate this first-came-first-serve system so much, I'm going to abuse it. I'm leaving this massage here, and if there is a spot avaible I'm going to quote myself, that I was here first. I'm avaible for the spot, I'm up for the task, and I did some practice, and I going to do even more. I'm not affraid saying that I'll going to do practice without a spot, I did that everytime so far, and I always missed the spot, even when I said it 3 weeks before, that I'm avaible, and I'm practicing. Why? Because I was pracising. Sounds fair. You are the victim of this whole situation and that's just not fair. So I think ovivoJR has to give you the first spot that opens up. To be fair, ovivoJR could just say fuck it and not deal with it by kicking the lot of you for giving him shit about his event decisions.
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Post by wishofghost1 on Mar 13, 2016 11:55:16 GMT
I know this is like "lol wish youre random gtfo" but ill state my opinion ( No im not being passive aggro). It doesnt feel right to give chong the spot ( no offence to ya mate). If @jfferby1990 wants beni to join his team then so be it. Its not like if hamilton died and then there would be this guy saying before f1 " guys im going to be a reserve for whatever team k thx bye" that that guy would join, no. The owner of the team would choose who joins. So if jeff wants to have beni join then he should let him join his team.
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Post by st0cking on Mar 13, 2016 11:56:17 GMT
Now we've reached the "make your own event if you dont like it" point.. took longer than i thought. I'm out of this discussion
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Post by Oh_Darn on Mar 13, 2016 12:04:12 GMT
Now we've reached the "make your own event if you dont like it" point.. took longer than i thought. I'm out of this discussion * Starts discussion* - Shit kicks off- * My job is done here* Sometimes it's better not to say anything.
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Post by jeffreyb1990 on Mar 13, 2016 12:06:25 GMT
Does the FIA or Ecclestone decide who replaces someone in the F1? Well maybe Ecclestone uses his influence and MONEY sometimes. So ovivoJR , where is my 10M? I'm 100% sure that the driver also not decides who will replace him. FIA at least have the right to refuse a replacement - as far as I know a team has to nominate the reserve drivers before the actual season. But I'm not sure about this. At the end we are not driving the real F1, so this discussion is quite useless. The event host has the right to refuse drivers for a reason. And I don't get why ppl are upset about this. Pls, host your own events and deal with all the drama and complaining then you might understand why some event host goes dictator mode at some point. People just don't stop with complaining. This reminds me at all the shit ender had to deal in satcc. Well I'm founder and owner of the team and usually those people get to make those decisions. I also made the decision for the start of the season who would be my teammate. If ovivo had just explained it to me and benimi before annoucing it, there wouldn't have been this kind of an issue. It would have been a bit rude to benimi, but he would have been the first reserve. That would have been the sensible way. Btw being my teammate is dangerous. 3 of the 4 have gone missing for some time and only 1 of those 3 has returned yet.
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Post by Dnl_Jackson on Mar 13, 2016 12:06:53 GMT
Now we've reached the "make your own event if you dont like it" point.. took longer than i thought. I'm out of this discussion Pls learn to read, I have not written that. You can just not understand how it is to be an event host. And to be honest, you and jeffrey should really watch you words. All that shit putting on ovivo is just not right. To a certain level I understand your point. But the words thrown at event hosts in general cannot be accepted that way. So, pls behave yourself!
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Post by jeffreyb1990 on Mar 13, 2016 12:08:07 GMT
Now we've reached the "make your own event if you dont like it" point.. took longer than i thought. I'm out of this discussion * Starts discussion* - Shit kicks off- * My job is done here* Sometimes it's better not to say anything. Come on, darn. You are just proving her point.
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Post by Benimi on Mar 13, 2016 12:09:08 GMT
I hate this first-came-first-serve system so much, I'm going to abuse it. I'm leaving this massage here, and if there is a spot avaible I'm going to quote myself, that I was here first. I'm avaible for the spot, I'm up for the task, and I did some practice, and I going to do even more. I'm not affraid saying that I'll going to do practice without a spot, I did that everytime so far, and I always missed the spot, even when I said it 3 weeks before, that I'm avaible, and I'm practicing. Why? Because I was pracising. Sounds fair. You are the victim of this whole situation and that's just not fair. So I think ovivoJR has to give you the first spot that opens up. I gave myself the first spot already, with this message. And nobody can argue with my reasoning (this situation would have been avoidable, if people are not communicating in the background, like novesori gave the right to select his teammate to servii, I was waiting for him to post something on here, but in the meanwhile, there was something ongoing in the background about it)
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