ovivoJR
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Post by ovivoJR on Feb 1, 2016 0:59:29 GMT
I just want to say that a similar situation happened to myself and ovivoJR at the chicane. But in this case, I think both of us saw something slightly different, especially after the short chat in the channel after the race. We were both side by side, much closer to each other than in the video above, with our front ends almost lined up perfectly (I was a bit farther ahead, and I'm sure on his screen he was a bit farther, common occurrence between drivers with an ocean between them) . Since I knew it was Ovivo, I knew he could control himself well enough to do the chicane two wide at high speed, and I've had experience doing the same without any contact for either person so I was confident in my own ability. We dove in, neither willing to give up the position, and we would have made it with a nice clip of footage to go into a highlight video had my car not let go over the tiny bump in the road in the chicane, and our cars touched just enough for the game to go into "oh fuck it's a wreck! RANDOM STEERING INPUTS GO" and fuck us both. So we were both fucked at that point, spinning and flying off into a farm, and having to wait for more than half the rest of the racers to pass before a gap opened up enough for us both to get onto the track again. So, apologies to you, ovivoJR for the take out and me being salty about a bunch of small incidents that happened before and after that accident. And apologies to Sugar_Free_Nos for just up and leaving in frustration. Don´t worry bladecruiser. I had confidence that we would make it. This is how it looked for me.
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ovivoJR
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Post by ovivoJR on Feb 1, 2016 1:06:43 GMT
I haven't said it was you, I only wanted to explain my ragequit. And yes I'm salty about it. Does that surprise you after a ragequit? And if you would have payed attention, you would have seen that I didn't do the MDSB, you were only halfway passing me and you gave me no room whatsoever because you had to much speed to make the turn yourself. There is no way two cars make it through that chicane without both accepting and being aware of the fact that they have to go slower than usual. Also Blah was well ahead. You could have slowed before the turn get a clean entrance behind him and use the fact that he has to slow down anyway because he is to far on the inside for the turn. Then overtake him before the next chicane. They way this turned out ruined both of your races. To have great battles you need to give the other driver room and back-off in situations where you normally wouldn´t just to attack at the next opportunity.
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Post by jeffreyb1990 on Feb 1, 2016 1:09:01 GMT
Yes and multiple people agree with me and some say we both made a mistake which I can understand from their point of view. But don't say it's completely my fault as I'm next to him and he doesn't give any space at all. So yes I push him out of the way, but only to not crash. He just goes into the corner like he's alone on track and that's a lack of respect. I really don't get your way of thinking. Let me explain my thoughts on this subject: Blah overtook you on the straight and was 3/4 in front of you heading into the chicane. You kept him on the inside, which was a really good move by you. BUT, and here comes the but, you tried to force your way through the turn as if Blah wasn't there. He broke to adjust his speed to the line he had to take, you however, plowed full speed, full throttle into that turn. I see no intention from you to slow down to make it through the corner safely. Thats why im on Xepy★̅'s side. You tried to take the optimal racing line while there was no space to do so because there was a different car, you're basically saying "he was in the line I wanted to take, so its his fault for being there". I did brake, but less than blah because I had a wider line into the corner. And I tried to get through the corner without crashing, but I didn't got any room from blah while I was right next to him. So he had to give me room but he didn't, so to not crash I had to push him out of the way. I had no intention to push him of the track, but sadly that's the way it turned out for him. But as I said before it only happened because he didn't gave me any room.
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bladecruiser
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Post by bladecruiser on Feb 1, 2016 1:15:30 GMT
I just want to say that a similar situation happened to myself and ovivoJR at the chicane. But in this case, I think both of us saw something slightly different, especially after the short chat in the channel after the race. We were both side by side, much closer to each other than in the video above, with our front ends almost lined up perfectly (I was a bit farther ahead, and I'm sure on his screen he was a bit farther, common occurrence between drivers with an ocean between them) . Since I knew it was Ovivo, I knew he could control himself well enough to do the chicane two wide at high speed, and I've had experience doing the same without any contact for either person so I was confident in my own ability. We dove in, neither willing to give up the position, and we would have made it with a nice clip of footage to go into a highlight video had my car not let go over the tiny bump in the road in the chicane, and our cars touched just enough for the game to go into "oh fuck it's a wreck! RANDOM STEERING INPUTS GO" and fuck us both. So we were both fucked at that point, spinning and flying off into a farm, and having to wait for more than half the rest of the racers to pass before a gap opened up enough for us both to get onto the track again. So, apologies to you, ovivoJR for the take out and me being salty about a bunch of small incidents that happened before and after that accident. And apologies to Sugar_Free_Nos for just up and leaving in frustration. Don´t worry bladecruiser . I had confidence that we would make it. This is how it looked for me. Yea, you can see the tiny hop my car makes just before we touch and spin. I didn't clip the barrier on my screen, but had 0 traction because my wheels were off the ground, so there wasn't anything to be done. I think if I had left off a bit more it would have been fine, but oh well, nothing to be done now!
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Post by Grumples_Plox (grimreaper977) on Feb 1, 2016 1:27:44 GMT
My thoughts on this jeffreyb1990 is the pass was made, you forfeit your claim to the chicane and your position, blah had every right to be where he was, you almost swerved into to him before he passed you, making him take avoiding action. it was a stupid attempt at an overtake, and you did not brake at all not even a flash, the was no drop in engine note either, you 100% where committed to take a line that was dangerous, and had 0% of succeeding. Who are these people that agree with you or say it is both your mistake, they are wrong as are you for trying to defend your actions. Novesori done the correct thing he expected you to brake and slot behind Blah thus took action by going wide and slowing down. pls be salty somewhere else or shut it. p.s. may get a warning/ban but i dont care
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Post by Oh_Darn on Feb 1, 2016 1:39:15 GMT
I really don't get your way of thinking. Let me explain my thoughts on this subject: Blah overtook you on the straight and was 3/4 in front of you heading into the chicane. You kept him on the inside, which was a really good move by you. BUT, and here comes the but, you tried to force your way through the turn as if Blah wasn't there. He broke to adjust his speed to the line he had to take, you however, plowed full speed, full throttle into that turn. I see no intention from you to slow down to make it through the corner safely. Thats why im on Xepy★̅'s side. You tried to take the optimal racing line while there was no space to do so because there was a different car, you're basically saying "he was in the line I wanted to take, so its his fault for being there". I did brake, but less than blah because I had a wider line into the corner. And I tried to get through the corner without crashing, but I didn't got any room from blah while I was right next to him. So he had to give me room but he didn't, so to not crash I had to push him out of the way. I had no intention to push him of the track, but sadly that's the way it turned out for him. But as I said before it only happened because he didn't gave me any room. You disappoint me more and more with your messages. Why should he give you space if you completely refuse to give him space? Do you have too much pride to admit you are wrong? Youre just blaming everything on him, saying he should have given you space and you can just take any line you want whenever you want and everyone should just move over so they dont interfere with the lines of king jeffrey. Your ignorance is starting to piss me off. @grim, it would be unfair to get a warning/ban for an opinion, right?
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Post by Xepy★̅ on Feb 1, 2016 1:43:00 GMT
Actually, I expected you to make your own room. I'm not in charge of your race, I'm in charge of mine. I took the Chicane to the best of my ability at that time, with all the space I could manage for you with what I got then. Maybe in your opinion, I should have let you pass, but who does that in a race? We're not teammates, you should have expected that I would not give you the position, to not give you the easiest line through a chicane (Like you have done to me, being on the left side of the track there sucks. Maybe I should have expected you to slow down and let me into the racing line?) and done your part to try to get it instead of expecting me to just give it to you. I have said before, if I was the one that took you out, that would be my fault, but you took me out and you're basically blaming me for being there. As you have said, where's the respect? If respect was there, we would just move on. Even with that takeout, I made the best of it trying to climb back up the race. Should I have ragequit immediately after you took me out instead?
And FYI, even if you don't say my name, I'm going to throw my perspective into it to defend myself.
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ovivoJR
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Post by ovivoJR on Feb 1, 2016 1:46:22 GMT
... pls be salty somewhere else or shut it.p.s. may get a warning/ban but i dont care Agree with the rest but the end was unnecessary. If you want to give input to the discussion do so but without offending the other person. Please don´t do that again! I did brake, but less than blah because I had a wider line into the corner. And I tried to get through the corner without crashing, but I didn't got any room from blah while I was right next to him. So he had to give me room but he didn't, so to not crash I had to push him out of the way. I had no intention to push him of the track, but sadly that's the way it turned out for him. But as I said before it only happened because he didn't gave me any room. You disappoint me more and more with your messages. ...the lines of king jeffrey. Your ignorance is starting to piss me off.Darn as a respected member of the crew and somewhat leading personality please keep your not very helpful emotions under control. I agree with your points but with those last words you somewhat make yourself less credible. Alright guys. I think everything that needs to be said is said now. If there is anything else to discuss do that in private or contact Sugar_Free_Nos.
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Post by Krizz on Feb 1, 2016 3:01:48 GMT
First I want to thank Sugar_Free_Nos for the Event today it was a pleasure for me to take part in this, and thanks to the all drivers in the race, from my POV I only saw good behavior and respect from everyone for everyone. I don´t think I had an intense Race like this before and it was also the first race with such a long duration for me. This was amazing and now I want more enduarance Races , pretty cool that this monday madness will have 2 enduarance races too. I really enjoyed the 2 races last week, but the race today was on another level of amazingness and I am very happy I finished 12th and that I didn´t get lapped.
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Post by CHill on Feb 1, 2016 3:48:34 GMT
My computer froze and took me out of the race, and the scoom didn't even wait. Ended up getting a DNF.
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Post by michiski22 on Feb 1, 2016 6:07:27 GMT
Thanks for hosting this event Sugar_Free_Nos ! I had some good battles, lots of mid drive speed boosts and a couple chokes ofcourse. The quality of my video is a bit shitty because I downloaded it from my stream instead of recording it. Hope you guys still enjoy though
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Post by jeffreyb1990 on Feb 1, 2016 10:26:37 GMT
Oh almighty topdrivers where do I need to go? (this is sarcasm for people that don't understand it) Btw I talked to nos earlier to explain my ragequit and he agreed with me about this accident.
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Post by Grumples_Plox (grimreaper977) on Feb 1, 2016 10:59:25 GMT
Oh almighty topdrivers where do I need to go? (this is sarcasm for people that don't understand it) Btw I talked to nos earlier to explain my ragequit and he agreed with me about this accident. easy you brake before this even happens and go behind blah and follow him through like what novesori did. look at the map novesori was on your ass as you went to the chicane, he is now a good 30m behind you cause he braked early and took a sensable line through the chicane and not plow into the back of you and blah. learn from example, not from reckless mistakes.
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Post by Ganjalo on Feb 1, 2016 11:42:45 GMT
If you already disregard other people opinion on that incident, why would you ask them in the first place? I think this has been discussed more than what needs to be and you should move on.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2016 13:19:47 GMT
This chicane rekt many players. Me and Codex, ovivo and Stepa(?) and sure many others. And it rekt me even 2 times. But the second time I was just stupid and hit the first rail myself causing me to spin and kili crash into me. Ruining both our races because of me Grumples_Plox (grimreaper977), I would have had you if this wouldn't happend. So your 2nd place would be mine muhaha
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