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Post by jeffreyb1990 on Aug 2, 2016 11:33:19 GMT
Benimi, I meant the F1 summerbreak
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Post by cameronman1329 on Aug 2, 2016 12:00:16 GMT
people do realise Nico didnt get a penalty for the move on Lewis in Austria right? he got it for carrying on with damage that was dangerous. there was no pen for Nico then to do with Lewis, so if they're following that consistency there would be no pen here.
but meh, cba to argue with dutchies over Verstappen, ender has some fair points but I disagree with them overall purely down to the fact Verstappen moved in the braking zone
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Post by endersai on Aug 2, 2016 23:57:18 GMT
Benimi
Remember how Britney couldn't turn because he'd lock his brakes up?
Because the move was stupid?
And how the FIA gave him an additional penalty? 2pts on his licence?
Yeah. You're wrong here. Nico/Britney is overdue a penalty for his shit racecraft and he got it. Deserved. Right outcome.
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Post by endersai on Aug 2, 2016 23:59:12 GMT
people do realise Nico didnt get a penalty for the move on Lewis in Austria right? he got it for carrying on with damage that was dangerous. there was no pen for Nico then to do with Lewis, so if they're following that consistency there would be no pen here. but meh, cba to argue with dutchies over Verstappen, ender has some fair points but I disagree with them overall purely down to the fact Verstappen moved in the braking zone That they haven't penalised Britney before now doesn't excuse his amateur move. And just because Max wasn't penalised for the Kimi move doesn't make Britney right here either.
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Post by endersai on Aug 25, 2016 2:17:53 GMT
joesaward.wordpress.com/If anyone is an F1 fan here and not reading Joe's blog, you're doing yourself a disservice. The guy is a legend in F1 circles. Excellent blog post on the power of Max: The power of a driver
August 23, 2016 by Joe Saward
André Maes, the long time promoter of the Belgian Grand Prix at Spa, has told the national newspaper La Dernière Heure that the event has already sold 70,000 three-day tickets, something that he has not seen since the glory days of Michael Schumacher back in 2001 and 2002, when legions of German fans would stream across the border to Spa, following their hero, who had huge support in the region around Kerpen, the town where he grew up. This means that with sales in the days leading up to the race, plus all the other people associated with the event, there are likely to be in the region of 85,000 people brought to the region for the race. This will delight the regional government of Wallonia which has to support the event and cover its losses each year. It remains to be seen whether the event will actually make a profit, but that is still a possibility.
The reason for the hike in ticket sales is very clear: Max Verstappen. The recent German Grand Prix saw large numbers of Dutch fans in the grandstands at Hockenheim, having driven the 250 or so miles from their homeland to watch their hero in action. Spa is much closer to the Netherlands, the nearest point to Spa being only around 45 miles from Spa, meaning that some of the visitors will be able to return home each day. Many others will camp at the circuit, which is probably the best option for fans as there is a fairly limited supply of hotels in the immediate vicinity of the circuit, beyond the ones popular with F1 people in Spa, Malmédy and Stavelot. The organisers at Spa expect that there will be around 20,000 Dutch fans in the crowd this year and says that all the grandstands have been sold out and only general admission tickets remain. Spa is also a popular venue for British fans, who drive across from the UK for the event, which is held on a Bank Holiday weekend in the UK, which means that they have Monday to return home.
Verstappen’s rise has led to interest in reviving the Dutch Grand Prix, which has not been held since 1985, but was a regular fixture on the F1 calendar for more than 30 years. It is clear that there are problems hosting such a big event at Zandvoort, the traditional home of the race, located in the sand dunes next to the North Sea, near Haarlem. The track would need considerable work and vehicular access would need to be restricted. Zandvoort is well-served by trains from Haarlem and Amsterdam, the latter being only half an hour away. However, the big problem is to find a way to raise the fees required to pay for such an event, with the circuit admitting that it cannot do much without government aid. The government has been pushing austerity measures in recent years, in an effort to improve public finances but for the last 18 months the economy has been growing as confidence returns. One alternative that has been put forward is to host a Grand Prix at the TT Circuit Assen, in the north of the country. The track, a shortened permanent version of a celebrated motorcycle road race circuit, hosts the Dutch round of the MotoGP series and has a contract to continue to do so until 2026. The track would need some modification for F1 but it would cost a great deal less than trying to revive Zandvoort. The Assen organisers say that they are interested if financial arrangements can be put in place.
The Belgian GP at Spa will,incidentally, have increased security with traffic and pedestrians no longer mixing in the area around La Source, as a precaution following the Nice attack in July. There will also be more bag inspections.
Do yourself a favour and check out his blog. And, maybe not this season, but next season, subscribe to GP+. Oh_Darn
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Post by Jonathan on Aug 25, 2016 7:17:26 GMT
Nice read. I say good luck to the people who all try to leave at once using one road. It took me three hours to cover just 1 km back in 2012 If there are people here planning to go, take your bicycle with you, park your car at the bottom of the hill and skip the major traffic jam at the end. That's what I would do It is really funny to see the increased interest here in the Netherlands. I used to know just one or two people who are interested in F1. Now they are discussing bringing back the Dutch GP. I say, by all means, make it happen
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Post by jeffreyb1990 on Aug 25, 2016 10:16:21 GMT
I have been to Zandvoort multiple times and they really have to do a lot of work on the track to make it suitable for F1. But the biggest problem are the roads to the circuit. Those aren't suitable for the amount of people that will come to a F1 race. You actually have to drive through the center of Haarlem and it's mostly one lane. When I went to the recent demo of Max, it was alraedy a disaster.
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Post by Oh_Darn on Aug 25, 2016 10:56:53 GMT
I have been to Zandvoort multiple times and they really have to do a lot of work on the track to make it suitable for F1. But the biggest problem are the roads to the circuit. Those aren't suitable for the amount of people that will come to a F1 race. You actually have to drive through the center of Haarlem and it's mostly one lane. When I went to the recent demo of Max, it was alraedy a disaster. I have lived in Zandvoort for almost 12 years, every day the temperature reached 20+ it was complete chaos on the roads.
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Post by jeffreyb1990 on Aug 25, 2016 10:58:18 GMT
I have been to Zandvoort multiple times and they really have to do a lot of work on the track to make it suitable for F1. But the biggest problem are the roads to the circuit. Those aren't suitable for the amount of people that will come to a F1 race. You actually have to drive through the center of Haarlem and it's mostly one lane. When I went to the recent demo of Max, it was alraedy a disaster. I have lived in Zandvoort for almost 12 years, every day the temperature reached 20+ it was complete chaos on the roads. Which means it's chaos right now
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Post by Oh_Darn on Aug 25, 2016 11:00:34 GMT
I have lived in Zandvoort for almost 12 years, every day the temperature reached 20+ it was complete chaos on the roads. Which means it's chaos right now No doubt.
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Post by equationunequal on Aug 25, 2016 11:12:20 GMT
F1 in Zandvoort is never going to happen. The town is a logistical nightmare. The chance that there will ever be another F1 race in the Netherlands is very slim, but if it ever happens it'll probably be on the TT circuit in Assen. Not the best track for cars, but Champcars have proven that it could work a couple of years ago.
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Post by endersai on Aug 26, 2016 2:36:45 GMT
www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/125857/belgian-gp-thursday-press-conferenceOh_Darn, this sums up my experiences with F1 2016 cars: Q: (Barna Zsoldos - Nemzeti Sport) Fernando, you said in an interview that, if the nature of Formula One next year doesn't change significantly, you stop - even if you win the championship. Is it really that bad? And Lewis, what is your opinion on that: is driving the car nowadays really that bad?
Fernando Alonso: Well, I think I said, sometimes already that next year I finish my contract with McLaren, the one that I have now, so I will have to make a decision if I continue in Formula One or not. I think in the last couple of years, especially with this turbo engine era, the car is a little bit different to drive. I don't say that it's better or worse, everyone will have his opinion. I've been lucky enough to drive 2003 cars, 2004, 2005, even until 2009 the cars were, in my opinion, more extreme, more Formula One cars, so now when I see GP2 running three seconds away, or something like that in FP1 it feels a little bit sad. Cars are heavy. No grip. We save fuel, we save tyres, we save everything from lap one, so it's a little bit against the instinct of the driver and next year is a big question mark. I think with the new regs everything will change a little bit. I think if the cars are fun to drive, are exciting to drive, I will probably stay longer and I will drive for more years in Formula One. If the cars are still giving me the feeling that I have in the last couple of years, probably I will stop. But it's not related to whether you are competitive or not. If you are out in Q1 or winning a championship. It's just you are enjoying driving the cars or you are not enjoying. Right now, in my opinion, the cars are not enjoyable. Probably because I drove other cars. If you arrive now to Formula One, these cars are very fast and very fun to drive - but not for me anymore.After driving 2010, 2011, 2012 cars a fair bit, the 2016 ones do feel a bit harder to drive. Which means you'd either struggle with, or kill it with, 2012 cars XD
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Post by positivetension on Aug 27, 2016 13:10:11 GMT
Qualifying seems to suggest that the race is going to be interesting tomorrow with Hamilton and to a lesser extent Alonso starting at the back whilst Rosberg wasn't too far ahead of the Red Bulls and Ferraris. Plus the tyres aren't lasting so there are likely to be plenty of pitstops.
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Post by jeffreyb1990 on Aug 27, 2016 13:18:36 GMT
Youngest driver at the front row ever!
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Post by Prutoog on Aug 28, 2016 17:13:35 GMT
You know Rosberg won when this thread goes quiet after a Grand Prix.
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