Craig 9876
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Post by Craig 9876 on Nov 23, 2014 19:21:25 GMT
Absolute giggle of a set of rules there lads... Really? In what way?
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fachuro
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Post by fachuro on Nov 23, 2014 20:13:13 GMT
Absolute giggle of a set of rules there lads... Really? In what way? I think he's referring to off-road tyres, curbs and elegy ban. And only reference to rules regarding to contact is "regular racing rules apply" and "don't block". It's very specific in some areas that have nothing to do with contact racing and then incredibly vague in everything regarding contact. And I believe what Sean is pointing towards as well then is what I was trying to point out earlier, that the priorities should be the other way around. The rule sets regarding contact should be specific and straight to the point, and our first priority. And further rules in regards to tyre choice, car choice and available lines should be a second priority in terms of specifications. Penalties for contact should be more severe then penalties for curb riding for example, as it is more destructive towards the race and has a great effect on more people. I think everyone agrees that a good race takes place on the road and not on the curbs, but I think curbs and off-road tyres are receiving more attention then they deserve in this rule set. And the focus should be more on attitude and behaviour in regards to overtakes, driving in traffic, lapping people and general risks of contact.
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Craig 9876
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Post by Craig 9876 on Nov 23, 2014 20:26:28 GMT
I think he's referring to off-road tyres, curbs and elegy ban. And only reference to rules regarding to contact is "regular racing rules apply" and "don't block". It's very specific in some areas that have nothing to do with contact racing and then incredibly vague in everything regarding contact. And I believe what Sean is pointing towards as well then is what I was trying to point out earlier, that the priorities should be the other way around. The rule sets regarding contact should be specific and straight to the point, and our first priority. And further rules in regards to tyre choice, car choice and available lines should be a second priority in terms of specifications. Penalties for contact should be more severe then penalties for curb riding for example, as it is more destructive towards the race and has a great effect on more people. I think everyone agrees that a good race takes place on the road and not on the curbs, but I think curbs and off-road tyres are receiving more attention then they deserve in this rule set. And the focus should be more on attitude and behaviour in regards to overtakes, driving in traffic, lapping people and general risks of contact. I'm doing my best with the time I have at the moment. I will make the rules clearer closer to the time. I have to do Uni work and I'm sorting this and playing the game at the same time. Everything isn't perfect obviously but give me time and I'll get things sorted.
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Post by Hale on Nov 23, 2014 22:29:16 GMT
Absolute giggle of a set of rules there lads... Really? In what way? Well, if the elegy is to be banned I guess for being OP then go ahead and ban the zentorno from all super races as its more op than the elegy is in class. Throw the schafter out as well while you are there, oh and the Z-Type. The rules on crossing the track are the same whether a bump boost exists or not. If a driver is attacking you, you may make one move across the track and then slowly return to your racing line. If this includes a boost then good on you. Banning people from boosting is silly as its unpoliceable. Offroads, I mean seriously they are only slightly better than other wheeltypes at what they do so you will have a lineup of 20 cars with tuner wheels on doing only a slightly worse job. Seems silly but there you go .. So many restrictions nowadays in the sense that: 1. People seem intent on turning every single track into the Monaco Gp and lining it in barriers ( causes more crashes than anything else, especially when badly placed). 2. Banning any advantage most of us have spent this whole last year discovering ( and being ridiculed for mostly until Sir Bruff gives his nod) 3. More a personal note this one. Putting a great overtake on someone and being shouted at for being dirty. Maddens me a lot. Seems some people love to race contact, yet cry like little girls when contact racing occasionally has some contact. Could go on but I'll keep it to a mild essay
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Craig 9876
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Post by Craig 9876 on Nov 23, 2014 22:42:52 GMT
Really? In what way? Well, if the elegy is to be banned I guess for being OP then go ahead and ban the zentorno from all super races as its more op than the elegy is in class. Throw the schafter out as well while you are there, oh and the Z-Type. The rules on crossing the track are the same whether a bump boost exists or not. If a driver is attacking you, you may make one move across the track and then slowly return to your racing line. If this includes a boost then good on you. Banning people from boosting is silly as its unpoliceable. Offroads, I mean seriously they are only slightly better than other wheeltypes at what they do so you will have a lineup of 20 cars with tuner wheels on doing only a slightly worse job. Seems silly but there you go .. So many restrictions nowadays in the sense that: 1. People seem intent on turning every single track into the Monaco Gp and lining it in barriers ( causes more crashes than anything else, especially when badly placed). 2. Banning any advantage most of us have spent this whole last year discovering ( and being ridiculed for mostly until Sir Bruff gives his nod) 3. More a personal note this one. Putting a great overtake on someone and being shouted at for being dirty. Maddens me a lot. Seems some people love to race contact, yet cry like little girls when contact racing occasionally has some contact. Could go on but I'll keep it to a mild essay I didn't make the rules, these have been made from what the majority have suggested. We all know the controversy surrounding the Elegy as an OP car and as it says, this is not entirely decided on yet, still waiting for more input on that. The off-road wheels make the races a bit harder and more challenging and for us to agree to not use them doesn't bother the majority anyway so theres that. What i mean in terms of making one move is you cannot constantly weave across the track infront of someone, they then change lanes because you have fired over infront of them just to claim a boost, then move straight back infront of them again, unless of course you are approaching a corner and you move back onto the optimal racing line. You made fair points, and the rules shall be much more finalised closer to the time when I have the time to make them more detailed.
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fachuro
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Post by fachuro on Nov 23, 2014 23:42:01 GMT
I think he's referring to off-road tyres, curbs and elegy ban. And only reference to rules regarding to contact is "regular racing rules apply" and "don't block". It's very specific in some areas that have nothing to do with contact racing and then incredibly vague in everything regarding contact. And I believe what Sean is pointing towards as well then is what I was trying to point out earlier, that the priorities should be the other way around. The rule sets regarding contact should be specific and straight to the point, and our first priority. And further rules in regards to tyre choice, car choice and available lines should be a second priority in terms of specifications. Penalties for contact should be more severe then penalties for curb riding for example, as it is more destructive towards the race and has a great effect on more people. I think everyone agrees that a good race takes place on the road and not on the curbs, but I think curbs and off-road tyres are receiving more attention then they deserve in this rule set. And the focus should be more on attitude and behaviour in regards to overtakes, driving in traffic, lapping people and general risks of contact. I'm doing my best with the time I have at the moment. I will make the rules clearer closer to the time. I have to do Uni work and I'm sorting this and playing the game at the same time. Everything isn't perfect obviously but give me time and I'll get things sorted. That's a fair point, and sounds good :-) I was just getting the impression the main points was all about curb boosting and offroad tyres, which I said I don't think are the right focus points around a racing league. They are fair points as well, but should be adressed according to the importance and ability to police those rules. As you pointed out though, we have a lot of time yet until the beginning so this is not meant as an attack on the way you're running things, but as input in which way I think we should be moving forward from here ;-) South, as far away from Hadrians Wall as possible
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Post by tylerdurdin4 on Nov 24, 2014 1:00:23 GMT
I was having the same thoughts as kelevra and fachuro do be honest. Well put by both of you. When I saw the new rules I was like really? The curb boosting can't be enforced and we all use the same lines anyway so I don't think you need to make it a rule. Also the elegy ban is overblown. I mean it's not that far ahead of massacro and feltzer anymore according to broughy new best cars video. And I think the off road tires should stay because even if we all changed, we are at disadvantage against other racers in different crews who still use offroads. I'm faithful to nodo but because of time zone I race against mainly gta race crew who are also in nodo but am not in any other crew.
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Post by reverampage on Nov 24, 2014 7:09:43 GMT
I would love to be involved in this but looks like it is already full. Also don't know the times and how it will work or not work with my schedule. That being said do you think you could write me down as a reserve. Thank you P.S - My PSN - ReVe-RaMPaGe
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Post by strikeslip on Nov 24, 2014 16:27:07 GMT
Is it considered poor form to heckle someone over the mic during a race?
For instance:
"Hey, Double_s92! Your mamma is like a race car driver, she burns a lot of rubbers."
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Post by Lupaciađź’• on Nov 24, 2014 16:42:00 GMT
Is it considered poor form to heckle someone over the mic during a race? For instance: "Hey, Double_s92! Your mamma is like a race car driver, she burns a lot of rubbers." ? I would consider that foul play on the race track, as it is distracting other drivers. However it does feel kinda lonely when no one is talking in a race ._.
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Post by vxwk on Nov 24, 2014 16:43:22 GMT
Is it considered poor form to heckle someone over the mic during a race? For instance: "Hey, Double_s92! Your mamma is like a race car driver, she burns a lot of rubbers." ? Yo mamma's like a bowling ball... round, heavy, and you can fit three fingers in.
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Post by double_s92 on Nov 24, 2014 17:19:53 GMT
Is it considered poor form to heckle someone over the mic during a race? For instance: "Hey, Double_s92! Your mamma is like a race car driver, she burns a lot of rubbers." ? I would consider this hilarious lol, but distracting yes.
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Post by fachuro on Nov 24, 2014 17:36:47 GMT
Is it considered poor form to heckle someone over the mic during a race? For instance: "Hey, Double_s92! Your mamma is like a race car driver, she burns a lot of rubbers." ? Wouldn't be the same without a bit of banter imo. It's just one of those things you gotta learn to get good at ignoring, and as long as everything is kept to and left at the track with drivers you actually gain from choking it's all good. It's always fun in these kind of championships to see what kind of rivalries develop, adds a little extra substance to it all The only important thing is that everyone must agree to leave it at the track, one of those "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas" kind of things, and that everyone shake hands after the event. It's much better then tip-toeing around and having someone get pissed off regardless because something put them off. If you are easily distracted by the chat you probably shouldn't use it during the race anyways.
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Post by â™›ZeNzI23 on Nov 24, 2014 18:07:54 GMT
If I start listening to the people that are talking during a race, than my race is over. Can't focus anymore, deff when it is someone like Adele
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Craig 9876
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Post by Craig 9876 on Nov 24, 2014 19:18:39 GMT
I was having the same thoughts as kelevra and fachuro do be honest. Well put by both of you. When I saw the new rules I was like really? The curb boosting can't be enforced and we all use the same lines anyway so I don't think you need to make it a rule. Also the elegy ban is overblown. I mean it's not that far ahead of massacro and feltzer anymore according to broughy new best cars video. And I think the off road tires should stay because even if we all changed, we are at disadvantage against other racers in different crews who still use offroads. I'm faithful to nodo but because of time zone I race against mainly gta race crew who are also in nodo but am not in any other crew. That fair enough, you're entitled to your own opinion. However, remember these rules are not set in stone and could change a lot more as we move closer to the start of the event. The feedback is good. The Elegy ban has the asterisk next to it because it could be changed depending on the majority of peoples thoughts on it being banned. As for the Off-road wheels, again I might make a poll or something to see how people feel towards them. Anyway, don't take everything down there right now as definitely happening. A lot will probably change.
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