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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2017 10:05:40 GMT
Anyone got any setups for the Sabre Turbo (base version)? I'm using it for an event and it's being really squirrelly. Right now I have the smaller chin spoiler, dechromed rear bumper, ram air hood, stunt cage, no spoiler (I'm not allowed to use one), no wheelie bar, competition suspension, and high end Dash VIP rims. All performance upgrades are Maxed out. Any tips would be great. Thanks 👍 Muscle cars in general are squirrelly, what are the restrictions. I currently have a stock Sabre in my garage I was planning on messing about with. I'll take a look and see what I can come up with.
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Post by weirdtwitter on Jul 13, 2017 7:38:23 GMT
Anyone got any setups for the Sabre Turbo (base version)? I'm using it for an event and it's being really squirrelly. Right now I have the smaller chin spoiler, dechromed rear bumper, ram air hood, stunt cage, no spoiler (I'm not allowed to use one), no wheelie bar, competition suspension, and high end Dash VIP rims. All performance upgrades are Maxed out. Any tips would be great. Thanks 👍 You'll never stop it being a lil jumpy...it's in the nature of the car but what you can do to help a lot is... 1. Take everything back to stock 1st off (except your performance upgrades) ("stock" setup has long been assumed the BEST setup on most cars) 2. Change the tyres to (tuners - Fujiwara) do 10 laps of the event track trying to hotlap and get the best time possible THEN change your tyres to (Offroad - challengers) Do the same 10 laps...see what tyres got you the lowest time and what felt better to you to drive consistent....and go with those tyres. Hope this helps somewhat.
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Post by NicotheRider on Jul 13, 2017 16:23:28 GMT
0. Drive the car more, get a better understanding of it, what it does/how it reacts and as a result increase your performance with it.
Then you can fiddle around with 1. and 2. as mentioned above if you want to do so.
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Post by fuksias on Jul 14, 2017 5:05:51 GMT
I've read this whole thread now, and there is one thing that bothers me about the mentality here. You guys always want the easy fast or consistent setups. What you guys fail to realise is that harder cars forge better drivers.
When doing an event you are really serious about you should find 2 setups. One consistent for the event, and one hard setup for training.
And when you are done, keep the hard training setup.
I cant guarantee it will make you faster, but it made me faster, so much faster that i started beating my old osiris lap-times with my feltzer.
"many of the best drivers started in slamvans" quote smithy112 (might not be exact words but the meaning is unchanged)
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Post by weirdtwitter on Jul 14, 2017 7:24:28 GMT
I've read this whole thread now, and there is one thing that bothers me about the mentality here. You guys always want the easy fast or consistent setups. What you guys fail to realise is that harder cars forge better drivers. When doing an event you are really serious about you should find 2 setups. One consistent for the event, and one hard setup for training. And when you are done, keep the hard training setup. I cant guarantee it will make you faster, but it made me faster, so much faster that i started beating my old osiris lap-times with my feltzer. "many of the best drivers started in slamvans" quote smithy112 (might not be exact words but the meaning is unchanged) you're correct, but all I would say to that, a lot of the guys in here, myself as an example...I'm there, or thereabouts with the fastest guys, I'm like 1.5-2 secs a lap on average behind boxman and rzod and the top lads...and was just looking for other ways to close that gap, I fully appreciate the benefits of driving the 9f and the reaper and so on and so do most people in here I think. It's just like , the 2nd tier if you like, I want to be a top driver and have the consistency down, just looking to push through that last barrier, be is short shifting, or finding out what spoiler MIGHT make it easier to carry more speed through a said corner etc. Your input is valid, but it's not about looking for a quick fix or easy way out...just looking for the last piece of a puzzle so to speak.
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Post by fuksias on Jul 14, 2017 12:32:55 GMT
Hmmm... i guess what i was trying to say was; you wont find those 1.5-2 seconds messing round with setups that make the car more manageable. Quite the opposite, it will most likely slow down you progress to get there.
But then again i could be wrong. I know my biggest weaknesses is lines and shortshifting on citytracks. You could say this is because I never had any cars with enough stability to reliably take lines half a feet from the edges. identifying exactly what your weakness is, is the fastest way to eliminate it
edit: never is a lie, i put offroads on my feltzer once. The result was a 1.02.5 on ccgp and one of the most hatefull experiences I've had on this game. (60fps and no active curb boosting). ref broughys time is 1.03.2
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Post by weirdtwitter on Jul 14, 2017 12:57:28 GMT
Hmmm... i guess what i was trying to say was; you wont find those 1.5-2 seconds messing round with setups that make the car more manageable. Quite the opposite, it will most likely slow down you progress to get there. But then again i could be wrong. I know my biggest weaknesses is lines and shortshifting on citytracks. You could say this is because I never had any cars with enough stability to reliably take lines half a feet from the edges. identifying exactly what your weakness is, is the fastest way to eliminate it edit: never is a lie, i put offroads on my feltzer once. The result was a 1.02.5 on ccgp and one of the most hatefull experiences I've had on this game. (60fps and no active curb boosting). ref broughys time is 1.03.2 Setup doesn't mean 1.5 secs agree, it's just about finding something that feels comfortable to drive THEN worrying about times. This is a thread for reference (should people wanna use it) that you could say is read before even getting in the car. Then once in the car, it's all about mastering the shortshifts and lines...as you say. All that combined, enables me to give my personal BEST rather than be worried i'm missing "something" in the game.
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Post by sherratt313 on Jul 16, 2017 0:55:58 GMT
weirdtwitter short shifting isn't the easiest thing to learn tho, being constant and finding the ideal lines and setups is better. Being able to short shift doesn't guarantee that you'll be quick if you continue to choke, just ask Jluke :kappa:
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Post by NicotheRider on Jul 16, 2017 3:24:53 GMT
Short shifting gains you more than a setup tho. Putting the time into learning how to shift properly instead of fiddling around with setups is worth it imo.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 12:31:33 GMT
There's a few things about your messages that bother me, I'll address them individually; You guys always want the easy fast or consistent setups. Not necessarily true. Some of us come here to drink from the fountain of knowledge, some of us come here to keep up the fountains maintenance. And when you are done, keep the hard training setup. I cant guarantee it will make you faster, but it made me faster, so much faster that i started beating my old osiris lap-times with my feltzer. I'd be interested to know what the track in question is. Saying that when I first started racing I was geting sub minute laps on Cutting Coroners - I thought I was the bollocks. Then I smashed my Zentorno PB with the Elegy (felt dirty and smashed the new Elegy PB with my Zentorno to restore the balance in the world). It's nothing impossible that you're claiming here. What you're experiencing is progression and improvement. I'd be more impressed if you were beating you Osiris times of now with a Feltzer. "many of the best drivers started in slamvans" quote smithy112 (might not be exact words but the meaning is unchanged) Undoubtably not the direct quote. The Slamvan was introduced into the game in December 2014. I'm relatively sure the quote was something along the lines of using Dominators or difficult cars. Hmmm... i guess what i was trying to say was; you wont find those 1.5-2 seconds messing round with setups that make the car more manageable. Quite the opposite, it will most likely slow down you progress to get there. I'll beg to differ with you there. If you're taking a car that's tricky to drive such as the Dominator. With the right setup you won't be wrestling with the car to avoid it spinning out or sliding, and naturally will be setting faster laptimes. But then again i could be wrong. I know my biggest weaknesses is lines and shortshifting on citytracks. You could say this is because I never had any cars with enough stability to reliably take lines half a feet from the edges Perhaps I can interest you in a setup or three identifying exactly what your weakness is, is the fastest way to eliminate it Calling out people who make shitposts - wait a second... edit: never is a lie, i put offroads on my feltzer once. The result was a 1.02.5 on ccgp and one of the most hatefull experiences I've had on this game. (60fps and no active curb boosting). ref broughys time is 1.03.2 Beating Broughy by 0.7 of a second isn't really impressing anyone here. There's plenty of curbs on CCGP, mid-drive chances and shortshifting to take advantage of. Beating a WR time would be more impressive or even getting close for that matter. The bottom line is this; if you've read through all of this thread (as you claim to have) you shouldn't need me to tell you that no promises were made at any point that any of this would make you faster. This is simply a thread for people to share their ideas about the tuning aspect of vehicles. If I can assist one person with the hours I've spent testing and looking in to the technical aspects of the game, then my job here is done. I've said many times I don't promise miracles - I'm nowhere near the fastest and I don't desire to be. One final thing, if this whole tuning thing is essentially bullshit and we're all wasting our time. Tell me why two of the fastest guys in the game (PS4 and XbB1 respectively) spend time tampering with the setups they use? Edit: Just one more thing: If we're all wasting out time with setups/tuning, tell me. What's this all about? [/span] is this the new place to suggest stuff? i have tried a few different rims lately feroci RR (sports) tested on: banshee (not 900r) full power, stock suspension, no spoiler, no bumpers or side skirts i have no idea what it actually does but they give an incredibly controllable feel when you get used to it. can drift without loosing any cornering ability at unbelievable angles. I am steadily closing in on my with spoiler lap times, already way too close tbh. and btw, any ideas on exactly how the steering assist works yet? may be quite useful Your move, sir.
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Post by weirdtwitter on Jul 17, 2017 12:39:04 GMT
Per above... @ogfringe thanks for existing xoxoxoxoxoxox <3 <3
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 12:51:03 GMT
Per above... @ogfringe thanks for existing xoxoxoxoxoxox <3 <3 No probs... I don't mind a difference in opinion. I just don't recommend taking a shit in someone else's pool.
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Post by mrboxman1 on Jul 17, 2017 13:17:49 GMT
Per above... @ogfringe thanks for existing xoxoxoxoxoxox <3 <3 its not one sided, both people are wrong and right 1.the whole thing about training set ups is just plain wrong... if u practice with the best set up then u will get the best lap time. 2.Set ups will not find you more than .5 of a second... if you are making more than this amount of time then you arent good enough at driving the car to be concerned about set ups ( i know my opinion is unpopular on this) but if you look at overwhelm on ps4... he will always be near the front, never far off the best lap time.. he uses high ends on all his cars... the park bench on the feltzer and pretty much the most stupid set up he can find. He smashes almost everyone who uses all these set ups they see the d1 drivers using purely because he is a better driver. So these people concerning themselves with set ups shouldnt be to concerned with the fine details and instead take time not crashing, shortshifting better and controlling the car. Then once this is achieved any change in set up will not greatly effect lap time, but instead help consistency a little and maybe shave off a few tenths at most. The above comment doesnt exclude any driver... including myself and any d1 drivers, who all have weakness' in some cars so need to get to grips with the car first before even thinking about changing something on the set up
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 14:25:03 GMT
1.the whole thing about training set ups is just plain wrong... if u practice with the best set up then u will get the best lap time. 2.Set ups will not find you more than .5 of a second... if you are making more than this amount of time then you arent good enough at driving the car to be concerned about set ups ( i know my opinion is unpopular on this) The above comment doesnt exclude any driver... including myself and any d1 drivers, who all have weakness' in some cars so need to get to grips with the car first before even thinking about changing something on the set up I thought I'd previously covered this, but in for a penny, in for a pound... "I know my opinion is unpopular" - I couldn't help but snigger at this and wish you'd put it at the start of the post. I will state once again for the record, something I've said many times, but seemingly I should add it to my signature the amount of times it gets brought up; I don't promise miracles nor that anything I suggest will make a blind bit of difference. I provide suggestions, ideas, you're free to do with as you wish. The point I previously made pointing out if you're not wrestling with a car trying to prevent sliding, understeer or oversteer was slightly facetious. It went without saying. The point I always make is the right set up will make you faster (even if it's placebo - again note the right setup is entirely subjective). I promote the trading of ideas as to what works best. Not to make you quicker/faster. But to eliminate as best as possible the car from the equation. So you can concentrate on the finer things like lines, short-shifting, etc in an effort to go faster. That is the ultimate goal for myself, and presumably everyone else.
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Post by NicotheRider on Jul 17, 2017 21:36:51 GMT
Per above... @ogfringe thanks for existing xoxoxoxoxoxox <3 <3 its not one sided, both people are wrong and right 1.the whole thing about training set ups is just plain wrong... if u practice with the best set up then u will get the best lap time. 2.Set ups will not find you more than .5 of a second... if you are making more than this amount of time then you arent good enough at driving the car to be concerned about set ups ( i know my opinion is unpopular on this) but if you look at overwhelm on ps4... he will always be near the front, never far off the best lap time.. he uses high ends on all his cars... the park bench on the feltzer and pretty much the most stupid set up he can find. He smashes almost everyone who uses all these set ups they see the d1 drivers using purely because he is a better driver. So these people concerning themselves with set ups shouldnt be to concerned with the fine details and instead take time not crashing, shortshifting better and controlling the car. Then once this is achieved any change in set up will not greatly effect lap time, but instead help consistency a little and maybe shave off a few tenths at most. The above comment doesnt exclude any driver... including myself and any d1 drivers, who all have weakness' in some cars so need to get to grips with the car first before even thinking about changing something on the set up I like your opinion and agree with it entirely.
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