Car setup "quirks" and tips

The amount of laps I have on "changing the flow" my personal testing track, is well over 10k by now. You can question me improving my dominator lap times all you want, but fact is I did 40+ laps in my dominator, changed the setup and improved my time by 1.5 seconds within 4 laps (note one lap is approx 2 min in sports). I can give you the setups I used if you are interested. I'll admit, the dominator isn't my best car, but I am by no means slow with it. This is also the track i beat my osiris with my feltzer, given that was a long time ago now and i have improved with both cars so i guess the statement doesn't really hold much meaning to it. However, I am still convinced that I got faster because I switched to a harder setup.

About my "training setup". Yes, you will be both faster and more consistent in both a "fast setup" and a "consistent setup". Today. But that is not the point. The point is that the training setup will keep you on your toes at all times. Making you improve your skills faster. I'm trying to say that using a training setup for 5 months and a fast setup for one month (or even a day) will result in an ultimately faster lap time than running a fast setup for 6 months.

About the ccgp 1.02.5 time. I used Broughy lines because I wanted a direct comparison between our pace. yes I know some of that time comes from 60fps, but not all of it. the fact that I set a faster time comes from the fact that I carried more speed through the corners and or chose better lines. I did not take a single curb that wasn't directly in the racing line, if anything I missed one. I did not mid drive speed boost or double clutch or whatever you wanna call it. I did not even shortshift. It is a good reason why i chose to compare it to Broughy's time instead of Merphos, Neodarkshadow, Legitgamer (law of 11k hours) or smithy.


No thank you. I make my own setups, and I could make a stable one if I wanted to, but unless there is an event there is not really any point in doing so. And I rarely ever participate in events. My driving style is also quite unique and whatever you suggest is most likely not something that will fit my taste.

Why on earth would you bring up my banshee setup? Btw. Its gloriously balanced, you should try it. And one more thing, drifting is my art. When i learn a car, I drift it, then I drift at lower and lower angles until I'm not drifting anymore. this is how I find the grip limit. the reason i do it this way is because most cars in gta have more rear traction than front traction, if you just turn in most cars you will use up the front traction, but not the rear traction. with my technique you find the rear limit, and with a slight drift (Making your rear slip angle equal to your front slip angle, in a rear traction dominant car you need a slight drift to achieve this) you will be able to take some turns faster than others. Logic and tire physics will tell you that this isn't exactly how it works in real life, but it is how it works in gta v.

I assumed you were making fun of me and undermining me with that banshee setup post, because not a lot of people drift when they try to drive fast. This is why this whole thing got a little defensive, and also why i explained my drifting very carefully.
Ferroci rr (sports) cause slightly front bias traction shift and reduced body roll. They also give off an effect similar to cosmo (tuners) it feels like they have more compression dampening. No I did not check chillis document for that.

Also @mrboxman1, have you tried "training setups"? Its kinda stupid to drag something trough the dirt if you haven't tried it. No offense if you have. I just prefer people burying my opinions in facts and counterexamples rather than just dragged trough the dirt.

There is a lot of ways to tune cars. The answer lies very much in what you want to achieve/create and how you want to get there. Shortest isn't always fastest.

"You" referring to multiple different people. you know who you are.