samwell
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Post by samwell on Dec 2, 2014 5:21:27 GMT
So I always hear broughy talking about using a cars traction properly, the advantages of cars with better traction, the elegy being a beast because it has so much traction that it outclasses nearly everything every other car etc. Now I understand that fundamentally traction is the grip the car has on the road, but can anyone tell me how to use this to maximize a car's speed? I always do quite well with my elegy, usually finishing top two in a random lobby, but I do that with pretty much my best car in any class, and put it down to understanding racing lines and braking and stuff. Basically can anyone explain like I'm five and tell me how to get the most out of it!? Cheers
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Post by smitveedub aka inFamous_Smithy on Dec 2, 2014 7:10:49 GMT
I've tried and tried and tried to master the elegy but it is just for me so unpredictable i can get faster lap times in my massacro i think its all down to personal preference and personal driving style for example Broughy has said himself the dominator does not suit him or his driving style but it is fastest in class
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Post by SakiBomb on Dec 2, 2014 7:56:44 GMT
Knowing the threshold of grip for the machine you're using is a must. Where any more speed will send you sliding, and any less isn't pushing available grip to the limit. Once you start sliding, you scrub copious amounts of speed. The more you use something, the more you'll develop a feel to where the "line" is and how to skirt the edge without going off. You maximize your speed by spending as much time on this edge as possible.
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samwell
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Post by samwell on Dec 2, 2014 9:23:48 GMT
Ah ok, so your saying cars with really good traction are able to get that bit more speed in a corner before it starts sliding, and the sliding is what you want to avoid because it's a speed killer? So a car like the elegy for example gets such good times because you can push it further when cornering, maintaining speed and not losing anything to sliding yeah? Thanks for the replies bty.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2014 10:13:22 GMT
That is exactly it, there is also a good Wikipedia article if you want to read more, about traction control systems, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traction_control_systemI also prefer driving the massacro, I find the elegy too slippy and unpredictable.
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samwell
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Post by samwell on Dec 2, 2014 10:27:41 GMT
Cheers for the link mate will have a read. You find it too slippy? I mean I don't really notice any huge difference between it and the other top 3 or 4 sports cars in terms of slippiness, I tend to get slightly better lap times with it and I always presumed it was because of the acceleration of it. What's the big deal about the elegys traction if you find it kinda slippy?
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Post by SakiBomb on Dec 2, 2014 10:32:58 GMT
Ah ok, so your saying cars with really good traction are able to get that bit more speed in a corner before it starts sliding, and the sliding is what you want to avoid because it's a speed killer? Yes, avoid sliding. Cars with higher traction/grip are able to CARRY more speed into and through a corner, and get on the gas sooner. So a car like the elegy for example gets such good times because you can push it further when cornering, maintaining speed and not losing anything to sliding yeah? Thanks for the replies bty. The Elegy is a great car, that's why so many people use it. It has a good amount of grip, but once you extend past that it spins out somewhat easily. It's less forgiving and harder to correct than say, a Massacro. The top speed isn't anything to really rave about. The braking sucks so you need to brake earlier. What makes the Elegy most of all is its acceleration, and grip. Grip, allowing you to get on the gas sooner and harder. That, with its OP acceleration, is what makes it so fast.
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Post by samwell on Dec 2, 2014 11:20:26 GMT
Cheers for all the replies guys and gals, I definitely understand traction and how to utilise it properly now, cheers!
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Post by samwell on Dec 2, 2014 11:23:26 GMT
Out of curiosity, are you guys more comfortable with the elegy or massacro (or jester or any other good sports)? Why or why not? Does elegy have the best traction/grip? Massacro defo has it in top speed yeah? Although massacro isn't exactly a slouch in the acc department..
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Post by SakiBomb on Dec 2, 2014 11:59:20 GMT
Out of curiosity, are you guys more comfortable with the elegy or massacro (or jester or any other good sports)? Why or why not? Does elegy have the best traction/grip? Massacro defo has it in top speed yeah? Although massacro isn't exactly a slouch in the acc department.. I'm most comfortable with the Massacro. I mostly used the Elegy before and wanted to move away from it. I didn't particularly like the Elegy's looseness once the backend breaks loose. It has a lot of grip, but as soon as it starts sliding it doesn't seem to want to settle down, especially with its acceleration. I feel the Massacro fits my style of driving more. It understeers, but I can brake later and turn in quicker by backing it into a turn without it feeling like it's gonna throw me into a wall. I love the Massacro's grip and how planted it seems (not so twitchy). Even if it breaks loose it is very forgiving and correctable without losing too much speed. The acceleration isn't the greatest, but I feel its grip allows you to get on the gas sooner which helps it out a bit. I've used the Jester for a time and liked it, but felt it was barely too slow to be competitive amongst skilled racers. I've started using a Feltzer recently and it definitely has a fun factor with its acceleration and grip, even when it's being slippery.
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Post by eohre on Dec 2, 2014 12:41:36 GMT
Maybe someone can explain the difference between traction and grip to me.
For example: The Comet has a high traction (LSC Bar) but it seems to slip in every corner. It feels to me like a futo on steroids.
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Post by ♛ZeNzI23 on Dec 2, 2014 15:44:50 GMT
You can almost never recover from a mistake with the elegy, once it starts slipping than you're 9/10 going to do a 360 or be sideways full stop. Imo the elegy is a really easy car to drive, until you try and go for it's limit. You can carry so much speed trough corners without any effort, I don't like it anymore. When you're doing laps on a track, 1 time you'll go trough the corner and next lap when you take the corner the same way it will just crash in it. There is no reason why it sometimes loses and sometimes not for me. That's why I like the feltzer, it's a challenge to master since it's very slippery but that's also the cars that I prefer. You can push too hard and go sideways and recover from it with an epic drift. I used to like the massacro a lot tho.
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Post by Hale on Dec 2, 2014 18:38:41 GMT
Maybe someone can explain the difference between traction and grip to me. For example: The Comet has a high traction (LSC Bar) but it seems to slip in every corner. It feels to me like a futo on steroids. The comet has a really good turning circle so its traction gets pushed past its limits. The Elegy is the opposite, wherein it has no turning circle so its traction is never pushed.
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