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Post by positivetension on Sept 17, 2017 18:44:06 GMT
That awkward moment when Max Verstappen, Sebastian Vettle and Kimi Raikkonen all turn into drivers from the NoDo weekday PL and cause turn 1 aids. I'm almost impressed. First wallboosts in qualifying and now first corner aids? I feel like we're being watched... To be fair it was classic Nodo with a crash before the first corner.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 18:59:35 GMT
That awkward moment when Max Verstappen, Sebastian Vettle and Kimi Raikkonen all turn into drivers from the NoDo weekday PL and cause turn 1 aids. I'm almost impressed. First wallboosts in qualifying and now first corner aids? I feel like we're being watched... Next thing you know somebody will start to brake boost and they alr aedy short shift. So whats next, stunt props ? kerb boosts ? and massive banked turns ?
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Post by piguy3141 on Sept 17, 2017 19:06:10 GMT
First wallboosts in qualifying and now first corner aids? I feel like we're being watched... Next thing you know somebody will start to brake boost and they alr aedy short shift. So whats next, stunt props ? kerb boosts ? and massive banked turns ? GTARacing.net
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Post by Sunken on Sept 17, 2017 19:48:07 GMT
Next thing you know somebody will start to brake boost and they alr aedy short shift. So whats next, stunt props ? kerb boosts ? and massive banked turns ? GTARacing.net www.f1.com
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Post by Teme on Sept 17, 2017 20:10:30 GMT
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Post by Sunken on Sept 17, 2017 20:27:08 GMT
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Post by endersai on Sept 17, 2017 20:46:22 GMT
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Post by endersai on Sept 17, 2017 21:31:01 GMT
Not saying you did, but some people are blaming Seb for this... Kimi is the only driver that could have realistically prevented this. lmao what? And if that is not a big enough space for an overtake, i dont know what is. The FIA made the right call, which was to decide it was a racing incident. The blame in my view sits with Vettel, mostly because he has done these Schumacher-esque moves before (Spa 2016, Turkey 2010) and they've never ended well. But he gave Mercedes a 100 point lead, and Hamilton a 28 point lead. He's been penalised enough. Saying Vettel caused it is fair; saying Max caused it is utter idiocy wrapped up in lunacy (take heed, Finnish fans - you made yourselves look silly with that). Saying Kimi, too, caused it is completely nuts. Vettel caused a racing incident - no malice, no incompetence, just a rash move with consequences he could not have reasonably foreseen. The stewards gave out the right decision. The worst part is another Hamilton/Mercedes title, which we're all really, really over at the moment.
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Post by Tsupernami on Sept 17, 2017 23:15:10 GMT
I should have just watched the first three corners then turned it off. Sort it out Liberty Global!
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Post by clone on Sept 17, 2017 23:26:55 GMT
I should have just watched the first three corners then turned it off. Sort it out Liberty Global! Was close to what I did, watch 1/2 hour preshow, watch the start, go to the toilet for the safety car, watch the next 3 laps, see how RIC is 4 sec behind Hamilton, talk to girlfriend (her first F1 race ever)... welp, be happy, not 2 hours of dude driving in a circle. Not sure waht liberty could fix there. When 3 of the 5 drivers at front play bowling, thats it. RIC then didnt look like being able to catch HAM (at least the 3-4 laps I watched and the stuff I read now about the race) and thats it, a boring race like we have them sometimes since forever. Could have been much better racing without the crash. For the crash: I say, its Sebs fault when I drives over like a mad man, but Verstappen could have avoided it, if he lifted when Vettel came close. I dont say its VERs fault, not at all, but I think other drivers would have just lifted from the gas and accept P3.
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Post by endersai on Sept 18, 2017 0:57:10 GMT
There was nothing VER could have done. He was sandwiched between two Ferraris and as he said to Sky during the race; the rear tyres are wider than the front, contact was inevitable. It's just bad luck - if Kimi wasn't there, no incident. If Seb didn't take an unnecessary risk, which he shouldn't have given how much he and Ferrari needed points, no incident. The stars just aligned for chaos.
I just don't get why Finns here reacted as they did. Is it out of respect for Kimi's past victories, or do you actually think he'll ever win a race again? How come Bottas isn't more favourably looked upon?
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Post by Sunken on Sept 18, 2017 4:17:06 GMT
There was nothing VER could have done. He was sandwiched between two Ferraris and as he said to Sky during the race; the rear tyres are wider than the front, contact was inevitable. It's just bad luck - if Kimi wasn't there, no incident. If Seb didn't take an unnecessary risk, which he shouldn't have given how much he and Ferrari needed points, no incident. The stars just aligned for chaos. I just don't get why Finns here reacted as they did. Is it out of respect for Kimi's past victories, or do you actually think he'll ever win a race again? How come Bottas isn't more favourably looked upon? I like how you're saying that only finnish people think it was Verstappen's fault. You can go to any commenting thread, and i mean any, and you will find people blaming him or even Kimi there.
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Post by Sunken on Sept 18, 2017 4:42:05 GMT
Also, my disliking for Max has come from all the past events of him crashing or being dangerous in general.
I was very impressed when he won his first race in Spain and got a second place in Austria last year. But the moves he pulled in Belgium, Hungary and Mexico showed me what kind of driver he really was. Yes, he has a lot of skill, but he needs to take it easy and use it in correct places rather than crash out every other race this season. He could be a future champion, could.
Most of the negative memories about Max have included Kimi in some way. 2016 Belgium almost killed them both 2016 Hungary invited Kimi to overtake and moved over as he was coming past taking his front wing 2017 Spain took him out on the first corner
And now this. Even if he wasn't the main Maldonado in this crash, it's still a crash in my eyes where Max played a big role in.
Im not hating him for everything he does, but the kid needs to learn.
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Post by endersai on Sept 18, 2017 6:30:58 GMT
There was nothing VER could have done. He was sandwiched between two Ferraris and as he said to Sky during the race; the rear tyres are wider than the front, contact was inevitable. It's just bad luck - if Kimi wasn't there, no incident. If Seb didn't take an unnecessary risk, which he shouldn't have given how much he and Ferrari needed points, no incident. The stars just aligned for chaos. I just don't get why Finns here reacted as they did. Is it out of respect for Kimi's past victories, or do you actually think he'll ever win a race again? How come Bottas isn't more favourably looked upon? I like how you're saying that only finnish people think it was Verstappen's fault. You can go to any commenting thread, and i mean any, and you will find people blaming him or even Kimi there. On this forum, it pretty much was. If I'd behaved like you guys did when Max actually was at fault and actually took Daniel out, I'd be firmly ashamed now.
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Post by dealesis on Sept 18, 2017 6:40:40 GMT
Could you guys take this debate somewhere more private? Everybody has his/her own view of things, and not everybody agrees on everything. Of course finns are salty Kimi and Max crashed again, it has happened too many times, so it is easy to blame Max before we even see replays. I thought we were finished with the matter as it came out as racing incident, can't we just leave it there?
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