haydugjr
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Post by haydugjr on Jun 22, 2014 15:41:48 GMT
I decided to but my opinion and how I will act in a race. #1 is good and I believe is a great rule. As a racer if you are overly aggressive however I will dive bomb you in a corner. I act as the older NASCAR drivers did or like the australian v8 supercars do now. If you don't mess me up by contact then I won't mess you up not completely on purpose, however, don't act surprised. I have the Eye for an eye mentality if I can tell it was on purpose which is rather easy. If you apologise I won't do anything. Also remember lag is a factor. Watch out for other drivers that lag because I have been o both sides of it and when you are lagging you have no clue that you caused it or that the guy who you took out saw you teleport to your car. Apologise and move on if it's lag. #2 Absolutely true, use the breaks!!! It's not hard and you won't pit others and cause unnecessary aggravation to other drivers. #3 Kinda went over my opinion on the on the first rule so other than that hold your line. Don't be unpredictable, first off it's slower and can get you wrecked and possible the guy or girl who hit you wrecked you as well. Rubbin' is Racing. #4 Good rule but if you don't focus on you're race you will do this. If you do it to me and I can't avoid it don't be too surprised if you catch a slide job by me later in the race. #5 The start are still part of the race I won't miss the boost and will expect you to not miss it either. If there is a immediate hard corner I will either take off if I'm at the front, back off earlier and try to stay on the inside to try to avoid contact, and if I'm at the very back I won't bother with boost and I'll just take my time. #6 I am proud but this shouldn't be a problem. I'll be going as quick as possible so I won't back off if you are trying to pass me on the flip side if you're not a dick I will ease up and not wreck you, pretty simple. #7 That's late apexing basically which ties into breaking which means USE YOUR BRAKES TURBO!!! #8 I won't try to aggressively block so I expect the same if not refer back to the top on how I will behave. #9 If you don't like the race "no vote" it. If there is slight changes they could make tell them kindly. If it's a track that is just a highway blast with or without jumps ask, "Why the hell did you make this?" and possibly dislike then. #10 I will hit signs. It happens to all of us. Been on both sides and like lag apologise and try not to mess up your race or other drivers. If you do apologise. Simple or expect the favor returned. #11 Makes sense except with the mini map. It can make it difficult to see others and I get that. Also, if you are a good driver don't try to block them from getting back on track that's just being a dick which is unnecessary. That is my opinion and how I will behave all in one. I won't step on your toes if you do the same for me. And if you went a little hard into a corner and take me out and don't apologise expect the favor to be returned if you are in my way at the wrong time. Yes. |
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Post by Hale on Jun 22, 2014 22:22:47 GMT
Zenzi. rubbing is racing. Stop being a vagina.
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haydugjr
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Post by haydugjr on Jun 23, 2014 0:15:04 GMT
Zenzi. rubbing is racing. Stop being a vagina. Pro username reader right here guys |
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Post by ♛ZeNzI23 on Jun 23, 2014 15:31:03 GMT
Zenzi. rubbing is racing. Stop being a vagina. Quote from the original post: "If some of you better racers have tips share them below!" Not useless comments.. Even offensive. Sure there can be contact between very good racers, but how often do you see irl 2 racers rubbing the whole race? I don't think you would like it when someone "rubs" you off track. |
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Post by Hale on Jun 23, 2014 19:44:56 GMT
Maybe you.need to watch me and haydug race. Plenty of rubbing. tapping and blocking lines / block passing. You guys seem.to think there must be an exclusion zone around.your car. Nobody can come within 5 meters
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Post by Hale on Jun 23, 2014 19:51:17 GMT
Just a side note: I think it's also important to know when to handbrake. In Broughy's LS Grand Prix race, going around the racing line (you catching what I'm throwing? The line with the tires around the one turn) you can immediately handbrake, spin smoothly, and speed off straight instead of turning too wide and having someone else pass you or slam into you. Also, what I find myself doing a lot is oversteering or understeering while slamming on the brakes to avoid clipping someone and in turn costing myself valuable time. I'm optimistic about the non-contact option, but hopefully it can help determine who the great racers are because they won't have to, you know, politely pass people which can add up on time. as soon as you touch the handbrake in gta you.can guarantee you are losing over a second |
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Post by ♛ZeNzI23 on Jun 23, 2014 21:11:51 GMT
Maybe you.need to watch me and haydug race. Plenty of rubbing. tapping and blocking lines / block passing. You guys seem.to think there must be an exclusion zone around.your car. Nobody can come within 5 meters Show me where that is written? Or maybe read #8, these are general lines not ment for one person only. For the majority of new racers this will help with evolving into a better racer. If you have nothing to contribute except for negative comments.. Maybe create some tips that are good in your opinion. |
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Post by Broughy1322 on Jun 23, 2014 21:35:43 GMT
It all depends on what you're racing. In open wheel racing and generally some of the quicker closed cockpit racing series such as LMP and GT cars in the WEC, contact at all doesn't happen and there definitely is an exclusion zone around a car (although it is infinitesimally small). That's because the cars are much more fragile in addition to being more prone to big accidents with all that aero and the higher speeds they reach. However in slower formulae such as touring cars or the V8 supercars down under there is an element of contact in what they do, mainly because the cars can take a certain amount of it.
However I think the dividing line is always one of "if contact hadn't been made would the result have been the same". For example if someone taps me very slightly in the back going into a corner and it pushes me the smallest bit wide, allowing him to get through, I'd certainly be expecting that person to let me back through. On the other hand if he dives up the inside before I start turning into a corner, yet makes side-by-side contact and runs me out wide as he takes the racing line then I'll accept I've been done. It's fine to block going into a corner, make a block pass down the inside, rub against someone as you are passing them, but if you're making moves that can only be done with a bit of contact (for example not being able to make the turn without hitting someone or disadvantaging an opponent by hitting them which then allows you to overtake) then you're crossing the line into bad driving. If you don't have the skill to get a move done cleanly don't hide behind the "rubbing is racing" mentality. Yes rubbing is sometimes a part of racing, but only when you've pretty much already got a move done.
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Post by Broughy1322 on Jun 23, 2014 21:43:37 GMT
I definitely agree with crazy's post though - it's all about knowing who you're racing against. If you do tap me in the back and gain a place from it, expect a tap back. Sometimes you'll be racing against someone who you know what they're like (either leaning more towards absolute clean racing or using a bit of contact) and then you know where you stand. But by default I'd say it should be as above.
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Shred_Ninja
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Post by Shred_Ninja on Jun 23, 2014 21:53:19 GMT
Kelev if what you say about exclusion zones were true then surely we would all be racing in non-contact or hot lapping by ourselves? No. The thrill of racing is in the possibility of contact, but the skill of racing comes from managing it without ruining yours or someone elses race. Also, there is blocking and there is blocking, and I hope you don't mean the weaving whilst staring at your mirrors kind of blocking and rather the picking a defensive line and sticking with it kind of blocking.
I do agree with you on the use of handbrake though.
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Post by Hale on Jun 23, 2014 22:49:47 GMT
Its not everyone. i just see a lot of posts. And.messages in the skype chats complaining of the slightest contact. Ive even.had people complain at me mid.race for turning across me when i was up the inside. Already more.than halfway past. Agree with crazyman in relation.to that. You get one chance then you are into the cheap seats where you can complain all you want  |
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Post by Trowa on Jun 23, 2014 23:28:18 GMT
Its not everyone. i just see a lot of posts. And.messages in the skype chats complaining of the slightest contact. Ive even.had people complain at me mid.race for turning across me when i was up the inside. Already more.than halfway past. Agree with crazyman in relation.to that. You get one chance then you are into the cheap seats where you can complain all you want I agree with this and Ive said numerous times you are 100% clean. So to the PS3 guys who think you might be a dirty racer I assure you Sean is not. Of all the times hes "rubbed" me I have spun out maybe twice and guess who was there waiting for me when I got back on track? Sean letting me back by. If our cars are even or damn near even then you won the inside line and I will either fall in behind or take an outside line (if possible) depending on the corner we are approaching. Its the people who get their tires even with your rear tires and push through the corner like you arent there even though they obviously know you are. You better be even with me by the time we get to the turn or I will assume you are going to yield because this is my space and Im not surrendering it because you took a shitty line trying to force me to yield. I have the lead its your job to figure out how to pass me clean. You can rub me all day but you better not pit me and make up the excuse rubbing is racing and keep driving. At the very least I expect you to stop and allow me take my position back because I will and have done the same for every single person I felt I pitted whether it was intentional or not. If you do drive off and there is no doubt in my mind you did that intentionally I wont do it back necessarily but I will report your ass to commissioners and you will get a message from me aswell as them. Not only that but I wont accept your invites to races and Ill probably delete you from my list because Im vindictive like that. So keep it clean or you can race against random scrubs all day for all I care. I dont want or need people like that in my races. I joined NoDo to avoid that and theres nothing worse than a good racer using cheap tactics. Imagine if Twilicane pitted everyone like that... He would never lose but hes a clean racer who goes only for clean passes or waits for you to choke. Thats how it should be done. His passing isnt as OP as his pure speed but its clean and in that regard some people should take notes. |
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Post by sparkysrovers on Jun 26, 2014 10:47:06 GMT
It also depends on how you look at it - in F1 rubbing isnt tolerated whereas in touring car it is to an extent. Should there be a street racers code??
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Post by Hale on Jun 26, 2014 14:43:55 GMT
F1 it isnt allowed.because.they are so.fragile. plus the open wheels. What we do online should.be treated as touring cars /v8 supercars. I.e beat the shit out of eachother
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Shred_Ninja
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Post by Shred_Ninja on Jun 26, 2014 19:15:12 GMT
Nah because GTA has their car physics set up in such a way that what are supposed to be pretty heavy vehicles behave like 10 stone weaklings in collisions. Its just too easy to wipe people out so I always strive to be extra careful in GTA vs other games, for that reason.
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