[PC] meetmypyro's Weekday Playlist Series

(Disclaimer: I wasn't there, didn't see it, didn't hear the call out. Have not heard Benimis side, it could have been a lag issue, there could have been unmentioned factors, I don't know, so I am not judging Benimi at all, however....)

Nothing warrents a train wreck overtake. I do not care if one guy is in an Vagner, and the other in a Tractor. You overtake cleanly. If a guy spins out in front of you you go around him. If a guy spun out beforehand and is now stopped side on across the racing line, you go around him.

There are only three situations where it is acceptable to collide with someone:

A) Lag. Either you didn't hit them on your end but did on theirs, or they suddenly teleport in front of you.
B) You suck at driving. You lost control, misjudged a gap, forgot how crap your brakes are, car reacted badly to a bump in the road etc..it happens.
C) They suck at driving and you had no time to react. They spun right in front of you, or you came around a corner to find them side on right in your path with no room to dodge..


These are the only times you should be hitting another car, and in the first two cases should result in you waiting.

There is no time, ever, that it is acceptable to hit a car, then repeatedly ram them untill they are out of the way so you can continue on. This includes the first corner pileup (or any other incident that you were not part of). If you have room to stop and go around, then you stop and go around. You do not just barge your way through.


Edit: And for the record drknut if i am reading this right, you were ahead of Benimi, not a back marker, he was trying to overtake you for position, and he took you out, calling him out was absolutely the right thing to do, and you should do it again.

Edit the second: Almost forgot D) Wiggle boosters. Wiggle Boosters are fair game. Ramming those gits is pretty much obligatory.

Without sounding like a parrot to the previous guys, I agree that you are under no obligation to move out of the way when fighting for position, regardless of speed or skill differential, and shouldn't accept a takeout. The slow car head-start strategy is sometimes very effective in races with a prolonged start waiting times, a 30 second buffer to the traffic behind, avoiding first lap accidents that arise from large numbers of participants is also a benefit of the futo or blista. In hitting you, your race was compromised with your fellow slow car starters, and with the latter portion of the main pack runners who are trying to chase you down before the flag. In which case, a takeout warrants a call out. 

Staggered start sunday would be very aggravating if fast late starters were allowed to force their way past slower early starters, and same goes for the conventional playlists.

Even when cars take out lapped traffic it is explicitly stated in the racing guidelines that they are required to wait, so takeouts on slow traffic for position fits well within this guideline. 

Possibly making a mountain out of a molehill, but just my 2 cents

I did my best to get fired on time to be able to join you... But I made a mistake 3 weeks ago: I was so bored of doing nothing at work that I actually started working...

And this Weekend I was in hiking in Austria. I was disappointed since I didn't see any kangaroos

Reminder:
Today:

Event preview.
Only cars* are usable today from the picture above.
*: The Alpha, the Coquette and the Sultan only able to run with the stock spoiler.

a) If you move so late your opponent can't react if not acceptable. Remember this? Late movement is dangerous, and put's the defender in the fault.
b) I did stepped on the gas, when I saw the gap opening. Than the gap closed, when I was next to you. This is how lag works, you know.
c) No you don't! It happened with me in MCEC S03 R01, talked about it with Nos, the commissioner who actually worked at the time, way before Baron took over. A GT3 driver called me out, made me loose half a minute, because he hit the apex prop, and that pushed him back to me. If the incident is unavoidable, why would the person not at fault have to pay more penalty than the incident itself? The point here is that the car behind can't possibly do anything to avoid or prevent the incident.
e) I did not say that, I said, "you hit the wall, you made the mistake". This point is invalid.
f) I'm not going to just say sorry and wait, if I clearly think that I was forced into a takeout, and than was called out for it. It ruined events for me, and it's a behaviour I don't wanna see in this crew. If I have the chance to defend myself, I will.

You proved me that lag was involved, so I waited.
I'm not saying you calling me out was a mistake, you were right. You don't have to apologize for that.

Me stating that you don't have to wait, when you are not at fault, is for people in TS who tried to prove me wrong.
Also here in the forums, people try to make in at fault for something that did not happened.

Also, I'm clearly against driving into a crash, and I was rear-ended more times than I can count, when I slowed down because of one in front of me. Theign detectivesalmon

People still think you have to wait if you hit someone who was in the middle of a crash of which was not your fault for it happening?
Wat

You know whats weird though, I can't find the part that talks about this in the community guidelines anymore. I remember it, it even mentioned what to do if you hit a pole that falls down and makes people crash, but I cannot find it.

Anyway, on C, benimi is entirerly right. Its a rule that is... not written on the community guidelines anymore?

As for A, its tehnically legal in nodo. FIA calls it dangerous driving and will give you a penalty for it (from what I read) and we generally use FIA rules.
If you block someone with your rear in a non racing line in a manner that makes it impossible to react to, its kind of a dick move but its legal I think 'for now'.
Anyway, FriendlyBaron is it just me or did the racing guidelines get... shorter? I swear it talked about dropped poles causing accidents and what happens if you hit someone involved in a crash but its not there anymore? Weren't there like, 7 rules there in the racing guidelines section? Tagging because you edit the guidelines the most and maybe you know what happened.

edit: I agree with sunken though, if this chat continues it should be moved to a PM. I still want to know about the community guidelines thing lol.
edit2: ok maybe no pm then