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Post by jbcarfreek on Jun 9, 2015 18:07:41 GMT
The last episode in one sentence, stab stab STAB!!
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Post by Blue Cube on Jun 9, 2015 22:27:46 GMT
Just finished watching the latest episode. I've come to expect a lot of gruesome things from GoT but hearing the screams of a helpless and innocent child as she burns to death? Well I guess now I know where my line is drawn. That really left a very bad taste in my mouth... too far.
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Post by Ser Tandur on Jun 9, 2015 23:40:15 GMT
If you like your sports and Game of Thrones, you'll like this:
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Post by fBomb220 on Jun 10, 2015 0:49:37 GMT
If you like your sports and Game of Thrones, you'll like this: LMAO! I predict this will have 3 million hits by this time tomorrow.
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Post by Hale on Jun 10, 2015 2:31:56 GMT
Just finished watching the latest episode. I've come to expect a lot of gruesome things from GoT but hearing the screams of a helpless and innocent child as she burns to death? Well I guess now I know where my line is drawn. That really left a very bad taste in my mouth... too far. That was pretty specialist. But if you came to GoT expecting laughter and cuteness, damn you are in the wrong place . (p.s that scene nearly had me turn off the tv.)
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Post by Craig 9876 on Jun 10, 2015 13:12:30 GMT
Just finished watching the latest episode. I've come to expect a lot of gruesome things from GoT but hearing the screams of a helpless and innocent child as she burns to death? Well I guess now I know where my line is drawn. That really left a very bad taste in my mouth... too far. That was pretty specialist. But if you came to GoT expecting laughter and cuteness, damn you are in the wrong place . (p.s that scene nearly had me turn off the tv.) Oberyn's death was worse...
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Post by Hale on Jun 10, 2015 14:00:12 GMT
That was pretty specialist. But if you came to GoT expecting laughter and cuteness, damn you are in the wrong place . (p.s that scene nearly had me turn off the tv.) Oberyn's death was worse... Oberyn had perhaps 5 seconds of pain. Shireen would have been burning for a couple minutes. Plus the fear of seeing the fire build. Id fight the Mountain any day rather than burn
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Post by Craig 9876 on Jun 10, 2015 14:33:49 GMT
Oberyn's death was worse... Oberyn had perhaps 5 seconds of pain. Shireen would have been burning for a couple minutes. Plus the fear of seeing the fire build. Id fight the Mountain any day rather than burn Nah. Firstly he was punched in the face knocking his teeth out before that fucking tank then pushed his fingers into his eyes and pushed down until his head exploded. That took like 20 seconds, 20 seconds of getting his eyes crushed into his head
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2015 18:04:13 GMT
Just finished watching the latest episode. I've come to expect a lot of gruesome things from GoT but hearing the screams of a helpless and innocent child as she burns to death? Well I guess now I know where my line is drawn. That really left a very bad taste in my mouth... too far. From what I saw, the internet was outraged at the lack of outrage in response to the child burning. They were mad that certain gaming and traditional news websites were calling Sansa's wedding night scene over the line, but then called the Stannis sacrifice "brilliant" or "compelling." I'll say that it was absolutely devastating, but gripping in terms of the story. I can't wait to see what happens, especially if (when?) Stannis fails in his bid for the crown. There will be a moment where Stannis realizes the depth of his losses and how much he sacrificed...literally. EDIT: Also, Oberyn's death was brutal but the fact that Shireen was so trusting and lived such a tragic life....it was far worse. She was innocent. Oberyn got cocky and ended up paying for it.
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Post by Craig 9876 on Jun 11, 2015 0:24:25 GMT
Just finished watching the latest episode. I've come to expect a lot of gruesome things from GoT but hearing the screams of a helpless and innocent child as she burns to death? Well I guess now I know where my line is drawn. That really left a very bad taste in my mouth... too far. From what I saw, the internet was outraged at the lack of outrage in response to the child burning. They were mad that certain gaming and traditional news websites were calling Sansa's wedding night scene over the line, but then called the Stannis sacrifice "brilliant" or "compelling." I'll say that it was absolutely devastating, but gripping in terms of the story. I can't wait to see what happens, especially if (when?) Stannis fails in his bid for the crown. There will be a moment where Stannis realizes the depth of his losses and how much he sacrificed...literally. EDIT: Also, Oberyn's death was brutal but the fact that Shireen was so trusting and lived such a tragic life....it was far worse. She was innocent. Oberyn got cocky and ended up paying for it. Oberyn was allowed to be cocky, he was such an interesting character and his fighting style was, in my opinion the best on the show. Shireen didn't really have an important story, yes she has the kings blood in her but she was never really center of anything until now. It was a sad moment and was brutal, however Oberyn's death was the only death I could only watch once because of how brutal it was. Already watched the latest episode 5 times and i still don't think its worse than Oberyns.
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Post by endersai on Jun 11, 2015 2:31:06 GMT
This show has gone full retard. Shireen burned? Are they mad?
Not to mention having Sansa, and not Jeyne Pool-billed-as-Arya-Stark married to Ramsay.
I've given up on the show. The purpose of the show is twofold; 1) to up the ante on "shocking" events and 2) to prove the showrunners are manifestly inferior writers to GRRM.
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Post by Ser Tandur on Jun 11, 2015 2:47:22 GMT
All of the things happening in the show have happened in human history. Doesn't make it ok by that regard, but nothing they've done hasn't been done before. Also, within the contexts of that world, these things are ok, if you can justify the reason to yourself and others.
But most of all, I feel the show is proving how hypocritical many people are. They outcry situations like Sansa or Shireen, but didn't really bat an eye at the nameless people Stannis burned before, or the (maybe) innocent family leader Daenaerys sacrificed to her dragons.
Most of the characters, with the exception of most of the children, Arya being a notable example, are done, by our modern standards, some seriously fucked up shit. I feel one of the underlying themes, and there are many, is redemption. Many characters are introduced, do something horrible at some point, then begin a long climb back to redemption, sometimes slipping back down the ladder rung. Others, on the other hand, are quite content at the bottom, because in their world, the bottom is often the top of the hill.
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Post by endersai on Jun 11, 2015 3:04:12 GMT
It might be redemption because the showrunners have to appeal to that tiresome American trope of happy endings, but that's it.
The proper story - not the oversimplified TV version, but the books - highlight very early on that redemption is a fallacy and honourable men end up quite, quite dead.
Whilst, in the books, it is clear that Ramsay Bolton is sexually, physically and psychologically abuses Jeyne "Arya Stark" Poole, it is not glamorised as it was on the show. Now, I know the camera didn't show boob and make it a sexually provocative act, but basically it filled the generic niche of "women have to be raped so they can overcome adversity and challenge". That's why people didn't like the Sansa scene; where a man would be beaten, maimed or tortured women are too delicate for a beating so they have to get raped.
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Post by Trowa on Jun 11, 2015 9:17:34 GMT
Oberyn's death was worse... Oberyn had perhaps 5 seconds of pain. Shireen would have been burning for a couple minutes. Plus the fear of seeing the fire build. Id fight the Mountain any day rather than burn She would of past out from carbon monoxide poisoning long before the flames got to her in real life. Honestly I could give a shit about Shireen. I didnt really think her character was interesting at all. I nearly posted this a few days ago but I second guessed myself. Personally my thoughts as she screamed in pain burning alive were "Damn what is Ser Davos gonna do?" Call me a cold hearted bastard but plenty of people have been killed in terrible ways and this is no different. As a matter of fact Theon already burned two kids at the stake and I dont recall anyone giving a single fuck then but I digress. Seriously what will Ser Davos do? My guess is he renounces his loyalty and takes The Black OR if Stannis is a complete lunatic he will just hang him. Davos loves Shireen that is 100% clear and Stannis knows this. Thats why he sent him away and I dont see anyway that he could still fight for Stannis after he hears this news. This is the only reason Shireen even got screen time I think. Do we really give a fuck if Ser Davos can read? No, no we dont. The whole purpose of their interactions on screen are to build you up for this moment so that people are emotional over it. They want you to care so you understand why Ser Davos is about to go apeshit. Unlike the Miller's kids who no one really seems to care about because no characters are really tied to them. I havent read the books so dont consider it a spoiler but this seems really obvious to me. If Im wrong then writers of this show just put a shit ton of filler into the last 2 seasons of GoT with all these pointless scenes between Shireen and Davos. Thats a lot of wasted character developement for nothing. IF thats the case they could of shown glimpses of her every now and again before burning her alive. Then we would just be like "WTF Stannis is insane. Poor Shireen, well I guess some crazy Lord of light shits gonna happen". Instead the way this went down this HAS to be a big character developement point for Davos and Stannis both, not just the latter.
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Post by endersai on Jun 11, 2015 22:38:00 GMT
Davos is utterly loyal to Stannis. Stannis shortened his right hand's fingers by a knuckle and it only made Davos love him more. Shireen's death will not cause him to leave.
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