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Post by Hale on Nov 26, 2014 12:47:58 GMT
GTA V's driving isn't realistic. If it were realistic your supercar would be vaporized if you hit a curb. The main straight jump on LSGP would break all of your suspension not to mention bend the frame if you landed any way but flat. Also the Zentorno wouldn't bend it would shatter because the chassis is carbon fiber. If you hit a wall at 150 you would die instantly in a regular street car with no protective gear. A supercar couldn't go over 120 with off-road tires or else it would throw them apart. Bullet proof tires still pop after long burnouts. Tire smoke would hurt performance because it's literally paint and die so not rubber there for less traction. Sorry to shit on your parade but just the fact someone hates on game mechanics that help make you faster whether intended or not then claim it's not realistic remember what I just said. If you want realistic either do a driving simulator or start racing in a karting series or autocrossing. That is all I have to say to every single person that goes with the, "it's not realistic," debate. So please stop using the bull shit vail of, "it not realistic," and just come up with something that isn't that because you are literally playing GTA. It's NOT REALISTIC so STFU about realism because I could go on for far more than I care to. Have a nice day. Can I marry this post ? I want to. I play Forza 5 because I enjoy the sim. I play GTA because you can drive like a hoolligan and get rewarded for being ballsy as fuck. Anyone playing GTA looking for realism is in the wrong market.
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Post by rcracer11m on Nov 26, 2014 13:27:05 GMT
The main reason I race on gta rather than forza is that nobody plays forza,I prefer forza because it's more realistic and the drivers are better but there aren't many people that play it. And I know the racing/driving on gta wont be realistic because it's not supposed to be,it's supposed to be fun, and racing was not r* main focus when creating the game.
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Post by Hale on Nov 26, 2014 13:33:40 GMT
The boy speaks sense.
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Post by Renegade1911 on Nov 26, 2014 14:31:51 GMT
GTA V's driving isn't realistic. If it were realistic your supercar would be vaporized if you hit a curb. The main straight jump on LSGP would break all of your suspension not to mention bend the frame if you landed any way but flat. Also the Zentorno wouldn't bend it would shatter because the chassis is carbon fiber. If you hit a wall at 150 you would die instantly in a regular street car with no protective gear. A supercar couldn't go over 120 with off-road tires or else it would throw them apart. Bullet proof tires still pop after long burnouts. Tire smoke would hurt performance because it's literally paint and die so not rubber there for less traction. Sorry to shit on your parade but just the fact someone hates on game mechanics that help make you faster whether intended or not then claim it's not realistic remember what I just said. If you want realistic either do a driving simulator or start racing in a karting series or autocrossing. That is all I have to say to every single person that goes with the, "it's not realistic," debate. So please stop using the bull shit vail of, "it not realistic," and just come up with something that isn't that because you are literally playing GTA. It's NOT REALISTIC so STFU about realism because I could go on for far more than I care to. Have a nice day. Can I marry this post ? I want to. I play Forza 5 because I enjoy the sim. I play GTA because you can drive like a hoolligan and get rewarded for being ballsy as fuck. Anyone playing GTA looking for realism is in the wrong market. As I said. Not realistic, but believable. You are willing to suspend your disbelief and accept that reality isn't exactly like this, but it's close enough for a game of this type, and it is cool as hell at that. That means you accept that your car doesn't annihilate itself upon a high speed impact, the suspension doesn't give in after a jump... That however doesn't mean that completely senseless stuff like curb boosting should be in the game. That has nothing to do with reality or adjusting a game to casual/arcade standards, that's just poor game design. And Trowa, if you don't want to talk about religion, don't make ignorant generalizations.
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Post by Hale on Nov 26, 2014 14:44:06 GMT
As I said. Not realistic, but believable. You are willing to suspend your disbelief and accept that reality isn't exactly like this, but it's close enough for a game of this type, and it is cool as hell at that. That means you accept that your car doesn't annihilate itself upon a high speed impact, the suspension doesn't give in after a jump... That however doesn't mean that completely senseless stuff like curb boosting should be in the game. That has nothing to do with reality or adjusting a game to casual/arcade standards, that's just poor game design. And Trowa, if you don't want to talk about religion, don't make ignorant generalizations. It isn't even believable. Don't delude yourself.
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Post by tylerdurdin4 on Nov 26, 2014 15:04:55 GMT
Wow you guys are right, this could go on forever! Besides letting rockstar know the changes that should be made, nothing else to do. Wasting time trying to convince people that are set in their ways. I see both sides and could easily be convinced to go either way. I personally believe there's not much you can do to prevent curb boosting and tires types from being used so why put yourself at disadvantage? We all end up using the same lines on these well known tracks anyway and smart drivers minimize curb usage and the driver that takes consistent paths (like broughy) usually ends up winning the races in the long run. The most important thing is the clean contact racing aspect being followed. I tend to use logical lines not involving curbs anyway. The part where someone said you can't force your beliefs on someone else, I think is right and we need to focus more on when to properly over take someone. I've been wrecked so many times by drivers who go for an overtake at a bad time and need to show more patience. The video trowa and kelevera did on north loop where they said that patience is the key on that track as you'd be better off waiting for the guy ahead of you to make a mistake than to force a poor overtake. You guys with me? Let's all get along and have a beer!
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Post by rcracer11m on Nov 26, 2014 15:40:04 GMT
We all end up using the same lines on these well known tracks anyway and smart drivers minimize curb usage and the driver that takes consistent paths (like broughy) usually ends up winning the races in the long run. The most important thing is the clean contact racing aspect being followed. I tend to use logical lines not involving curbs anyway. This is so true. I doubt that crazyman uses the same lines on ccgp when hot lapping than when racing because the curb boosting lines are too risky and even with lots of practice you're still likely to hit a sign/poll and crash.
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Post by Hale on Nov 26, 2014 16:06:16 GMT
We all end up using the same lines on these well known tracks anyway and smart drivers minimize curb usage and the driver that takes consistent paths (like broughy) usually ends up winning the races in the long run. The most important thing is the clean contact racing aspect being followed. I tend to use logical lines not involving curbs anyway. This is so true. I doubt that crazyman uses the same lines on ccgp when hot lapping than when racing because the curb boosting lines are too risky and even with lots of practice you're still likely to hit a sign/poll and crash. You can guarantee that, i know for sure when hotlapping lsgp you will hit probably 1 in 20 good laps. Hotlap lines that are being blocked for races really have no relevance.
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Post by Trowa on Nov 26, 2014 16:11:56 GMT
As I said. Not realistic, but believable. You are willing to suspend your disbelief and accept that reality isn't exactly like this, but it's close enough for a game of this type, and it is cool as hell at that. That means you accept that your car doesn't annihilate itself upon a high speed impact, the suspension doesn't give in after a jump... That however doesn't mean that completely senseless stuff like curb boosting should be in the game. That has nothing to do with reality or adjusting a game to casual/arcade standards, that's just poor game design. And Trowa, if you don't want to talk about religion, don't make ignorant generalizations. Renegade, please learn how to read. There is nothing ignorant about my analogy. If you dont understand it that would in fact be the definition of ignorance. I may have touched a nerve but as I said anything I used in my analogy would of been controversial because anytime one group is intolerant of another there is controversy. Just because it pissed you off doesnt make it ignorant. The fact that the word "kerber" was already dropped into this thread further solidifies that point. While it may not be as offensive its hardly much different then any other derogatory term. Its meant to single out a group of people, label and condescend them. I chose to use religion for my analogy because it felt less offensive and more to the point then race or sexuality. The reasoning behind that is over the course of our 7,000 years of recorded history the number 1 reason for war is to prove which god has a bigger dick. You can not like it all you want but the consistency of intolerance makes religion a perfect example. Moreover it makes my statement valid AND of fucking course its a generalization. If I wanted to pick out a single group it would be in pretty poor taste when as a whole religion is guilty for the most part. There are a few exceptions where violence is quite literally never the answer. Those people know who they are and what their religion is and understand that Im clearly not referencing them.. because they arent ignorant.
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Post by Hale on Nov 26, 2014 16:18:28 GMT
Kerber and proud 2014. MCEC champion and Large penis.
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Post by The_Bad_Loser on Nov 26, 2014 16:35:25 GMT
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Post by CrazyMan2626267 on Nov 26, 2014 17:13:49 GMT
As I said. Not realistic, but believable. You are willing to suspend your disbelief and accept that reality isn't exactly like this, but it's close enough for a game of this type, and it is cool as hell at that. That means you accept that your car doesn't annihilate itself upon a high speed impact, the suspension doesn't give in after a jump... That however doesn't mean that completely senseless stuff like curb boosting should be in the game. That has nothing to do with reality or adjusting a game to casual/arcade standards, that's just poor game design. And Trowa, if you don't want to talk about religion, don't make ignorant generalizations. The thing is I don't suspend disbelieve. Besides I want to race at my skill level which is more challenging if I hit curbs and is also rewarding because I'm faster for it. Everyone knows about it and the fastest way around a corner will always at least be touching a curb if not getting all your tires on said curb. So at the end of it all if you don't like curb boosting don't use realism as the holy grail answer because it not. On a side note all religion is flawed. It was written by MAN and MAN is flawed. Doesn't mean their can't be something greater don't get me there but I don't there is a single book that has it right because the one who wrote it was a man. That goes for all religions so if you want to have a debate about that as well go ahead and prove to me that man isn't flawed and wrote down (insert deity's name) whole thoughts word for word. No half sections either, gotta be the whole book without contradiction. Otherwise man fucked it up and therefore I can't believe a single word because MAN fucked it up or wrote down some bullshit I won't trust much the same as I don't trust strangers.
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Post by Renegade1911 on Nov 26, 2014 17:16:00 GMT
As I said. Not realistic, but believable. You are willing to suspend your disbelief and accept that reality isn't exactly like this, but it's close enough for a game of this type, and it is cool as hell at that. That means you accept that your car doesn't annihilate itself upon a high speed impact, the suspension doesn't give in after a jump... That however doesn't mean that completely senseless stuff like curb boosting should be in the game. That has nothing to do with reality or adjusting a game to casual/arcade standards, that's just poor game design. And Trowa, if you don't want to talk about religion, don't make ignorant generalizations. Renegade, please learn how to read. There is nothing ignorant about my analogy. If you dont understand it that would in fact be the definition of ignorance. I may have touched a nerve but as I said anything I used in my analogy would of been controversial because anytime one group is intolerant of another there is controversy. Just because it pissed you off doesnt make it ignorant. The fact that the word "kerber" was already dropped into this thread further solidifies that point. While it may not be as offensive its hardly much different then any other derogatory term. Its meant to single out a group of people, label and condescend them. I chose to use religion for my analogy because it felt less offensive and more to the point then race or sexuality. The reasoning behind that is over the course of our 7,000 years of recorded history the number 1 reason for war is to prove which god has a bigger dick. You can not like it all you want but the consistency of intolerance makes religion a perfect example. Moreover it makes my statement valid AND of fucking course its a generalization. If I wanted to pick out a single group it would be in pretty poor taste when as a whole religion is guilty for the most part. There are a few exceptions where violence is quite literally never the answer. Those people know who they are and what their religion is and understand that Im clearly not referencing them.. because they arent ignorant. Over the course of history? Yeah, that's like saying "Americans are murderers." because your ancestors massacred the native population. There are very few religions that have intolerance within their creeds. However religion was frequently used as a decoy to excuse power struggles. That hardly makes religion or any religious group by itself intolerant. Using a sexuality or race in the analogy would be just as wrong. Do all whites discriminate blacks or vice versa (use any combination of races/ethnicities)? Do all heterosexuals hate homosexuals? Yeah, didn't think so.
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Post by Trowa on Nov 26, 2014 17:22:57 GMT
Renegade, please learn how to read. There is nothing ignorant about my analogy. If you dont understand it that would in fact be the definition of ignorance. I may have touched a nerve but as I said anything I used in my analogy would of been controversial because anytime one group is intolerant of another there is controversy. Just because it pissed you off doesnt make it ignorant. The fact that the word "kerber" was already dropped into this thread further solidifies that point. While it may not be as offensive its hardly much different then any other derogatory term. Its meant to single out a group of people, label and condescend them. I chose to use religion for my analogy because it felt less offensive and more to the point then race or sexuality. The reasoning behind that is over the course of our 7,000 years of recorded history the number 1 reason for war is to prove which god has a bigger dick. You can not like it all you want but the consistency of intolerance makes religion a perfect example. Moreover it makes my statement valid AND of fucking course its a generalization. If I wanted to pick out a single group it would be in pretty poor taste when as a whole religion is guilty for the most part. There are a few exceptions where violence is quite literally never the answer. Those people know who they are and what their religion is and understand that Im clearly not referencing them.. because they arent ignorant. Over the course of history? Yeah, that's like saying "Americans are murderers." because your ancestors massacred the native population. There are very few religions that have intolerance within their creeds. However religion was frequently used as a decoy to excuse power struggles. That hardly makes religion or any religious group by itself intolerant. Using a sexuality or race in the analogy would be just as wrong. Do all whites discriminate blacks or vice versa (use any combination of races/ethnicities)? Do all heterosexuals hate homosexuals? Yeah, didn't think so. The point. Your head.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 17:30:01 GMT
Kerber and proud 2014. MCEC champion and Large penis. You're a large penis?
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