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Post by weirdtwitter on Feb 24, 2017 18:44:37 GMT
KingBlazeIV can't explain why it works with stock breaks, it just keeps the car glued to the ground. I guess try n c what u think, it's best on face paced city tracks also btw.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 10:50:18 GMT
weirdtwitter this is an interesting find, I decided to try it out last night seen as I've got 2 Osiris' (don't ask). I always found the Oriris was nicely balanced but was never a fan of using it on tight city tracks, but it was my go to super for any other scenario. Fujiwaras made the front of the car feel a bit lighter so it was easier navigating hairpins and this was the first car I ever tried tuner tyres on. The one problem I found was with the tyres; the Raiders which shifts the traction forward which I feel slightly upsets the balanced feel of the car and makes it understeer and less responsive turning. This is personal preference I guess and not everyone will feel the same. I think over the next few days I'll try some other tyres (probably Rock Crawlers as they're traction neutral). The Osiris has a brake force of 1.05 in comparison to something like the Bullet which is only 0.8. I'd think stock brakes would suit most supers and the top end sports with brake force of 1.0 or more but I wouldn't be too quick to try it out with any of the Muscles or Sports Classics. I'll have a play around with this set up and report back in a few days if I discover anything that improves things.
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Post by weirdtwitter on Feb 28, 2017 20:36:31 GMT
@ogfringe I didn't try tuners yet. Just happy with everything about the car, for once-in-a-lifetime I'm settled. Lol.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 1:13:57 GMT
Right then I need help!! I've spent a lot of time since the Brioso was released trying to tame it and reduce or minimalise that dreadful oversteer. Having recently conquered three of the cars that have caused me the most trouble since they were introduced; Elegy, 9f (the hard top - Cabrini not required here!!)and Banshee 900r. I thought I'd try and tackle my current two nemesis' the Brioso and Shafter v12.
After spending six hours on the Brioso I'm a broken man. I'm currently running lowest suspension, fujiwara rims, the dual roof scoop, full neons and stock roof, bumpers and hood. I've tried rock crawlers and although it doesn't have the tyres can clip flag, it seems to keep it a little more stable over bumps and kerbs. Spoiler wise with tuners I lean towards the big wing, conversely I find the smaller wing better with off roads. Any ideas please??
Didn't get round to the Schaffer but I'm running the smallest spoiler (believe it's a lip spoiler) no cosmetic mods, lowest suspension and fujiwara tyres.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.
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Post by Hystery on Mar 25, 2017 1:42:05 GMT
Do strictly visual upgrades (bumpers, wheels between the same category, neons, fenders, carbon roof, etc) really make any difference? It sounds like a placebo effect to me, I can't get my head around that. Suspensions, I can understand, the ground clearance, the bumps absorption, but visual upgrades? Nope, can't understand how it'd make sense.
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Post by jeffreyb1990 on Mar 25, 2017 11:13:47 GMT
Do strictly visual upgrades (bumpers, wheels between the same category, neons, fenders, carbon roof, etc) really make any difference? It sounds like a placebo effect to me, I can't get my head around that. Suspensions, I can understand, the ground clearance, the bumps absorption, but visual upgrades? Nope, can't understand how it'd make sense. They shift the COM. So they have an influence on the balance of cars. |
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Post by Hystery on Mar 25, 2017 13:56:48 GMT
Do strictly visual upgrades (bumpers, wheels between the same category, neons, fenders, carbon roof, etc) really make any difference? It sounds like a placebo effect to me, I can't get my head around that. Suspensions, I can understand, the ground clearance, the bumps absorption, but visual upgrades? Nope, can't understand how it'd make sense. They shift the COM. So they have an influence on the balance of cars. Is there some hard proof of this though? Like changes in the car's handling lines when visual upgrades are added, something like that? Because I really don't see Rockstar going as far as working on the actual weight of the visual upgrades to change the car's center of mass or balance, they're way too lazy to go that much in depth. |
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Post by jeffreyb1990 on Mar 25, 2017 14:05:09 GMT
They shift the COM. So they have an influence on the balance of cars. Is there some hard proof of this though? Like changes in the car's handling lines when visual upgrades are added, something like that? Because I really don't see Rockstar going as far as working on the actual weight of the visual upgrades to change the car's center of mass or balance, they're way too lazy to go that much in depth. In this thread you can find a document about it in the OP: nodo.freeforums.net/thread/7002/car-mechanics-dynamics-document |
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Post by Optimistic_Pig on Mar 25, 2017 16:40:50 GMT
They shift the COM. So they have an influence on the balance of cars. Is there some hard proof of this though? Like changes in the car's handling lines when visual upgrades are added, something like that? Because I really don't see Rockstar going as far as working on the actual weight of the visual upgrades to change the car's center of mass or balance, they're way too lazy to go that much in depth. Maybe they never did it on purpose. Maybe it just happens? |
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Post by weirdtwitter on Mar 28, 2017 3:02:56 GMT
@ogfringe I hate the brioso, but I will try some setups in the morning. I can't seems to make it easier from what I tried so far. I'll update you.
As for the schafter v12 , i never had many issues with it, probably cos it doesn't get used much unless it's some random playlist , what issues / what don't you like about it ? I find it ok...
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Post by imfishy on Mar 28, 2017 10:49:02 GMT
Didn't get round to the Schaffer but I'm running the smallest spoiler (believe it's a lip spoiler) no cosmetic mods, lowest suspension and fujiwara tyres. Hey there, so i have a little V12 setup to test. My friends ( obihoernchen , p4uliii toodlesn ) and i did some testing with the V12 prior to the V12 Voyage on PC. We tested a lot of different setups and ended up with this one: Biggest Spoiler Stock suspension Rallymasters Only smallest front bumper (its called Euro-something if i remember correctly) (no skirts or rear bumper) The car is very stable, doesnt handle bumps very well though |
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Post by Blade died for our sins on Mar 28, 2017 11:37:28 GMT
Didn't get round to the Schaffer but I'm running the smallest spoiler (believe it's a lip spoiler) no cosmetic mods, lowest suspension and fujiwara tyres. Hey there, so i have a little V12 setup to test. My friends ( obihoernchen , p4uliii toodlesn ) and i did some testing with the V12 prior to the V12 Voyage on PC. We tested a lot of different setups and ended up with this one: Biggest Spoiler Stock suspension Rallymasters Only smallest front bumper (its called Euro-something if i remember correctly) (no skirts or rear bumper) The car is very stable, doesnt handle bumps very well though There should be no difference between bumpers (other than stock vs custom) because they all have the same Hitbox. I think the same applies to spoilers other than the lip but I'd have to double check |
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Post by KingBlazeIV on Mar 28, 2017 11:55:08 GMT
Yeah good luck with the Brioso, I spent an entire event trying to figure out a good setup and it really just messed me up in the long run xD Honestly the only thing of use I found is that on flat tracks having high ends makes it so much easier to drive and then for other tracks I literally have no idea, it is just a dreadfully unpredictable car
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 14:29:26 GMT
@ogfringe I hate the brioso, but I will try some setups in the morning. I can't seems to make it easier from what I tried so far. I'll update you. As for the schafter v12 , i never had many issues with it, probably cos it doesn't get used much unless it's some random playlist , what issues / what don't you like about it ? I find it ok... I can't stand the Brioso, I'm wishing for something a little better to drive to do a "Turismo Classic" to the Compacts class. It's too unpredictable, it's like taking a Crocadile for a walk, it might be fine to begin with but there's no telling when it's going to snap.  Hey there, so i have a little V12 setup to test. My friends ( obihoernchen , p4uliii toodlesn ) and i did some testing with the V12 prior to the V12 Voyage on PC. We tested a lot of different setups and ended up with this one: Biggest Spoiler Stock suspension Rallymasters Only smallest front bumper (its called Euro-something if i remember correctly) (no skirts or rear bumper) The car is very stable, doesnt handle bumps very well though Will give this a go, cheers man There should be no difference between bumpers (other than stock vs custom) because they all have the same Hitbox. I think the same applies to spoilers other than the lip but I'd have to double check I'm new to this coding thing... how are you viewing the hitboxes on the modifications? OpenIV? Yeah good luck with the Brioso, I spent an entire event trying to figure out a good setup and it really just messed me up in the long run xD Honestly the only thing of use I found is that on flat tracks having high ends makes it so much easier to drive and then for other tracks I literally have no idea, it is just a dreadfully unpredictable car I know it doesn't have the tyres can clip flag but off roads seem to make things slightly better, but I'm open to suggestions. I hate the car and really wanna see it burn |
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Post by Blade died for our sins on Mar 28, 2017 16:37:00 GMT
There should be no difference between bumpers (other than stock vs custom) because they all have the same Hitbox. I think the same applies to spoilers other than the lip but I'd have to double check I'm new to this coding thing... how are you viewing the hitboxes on the modifications? OpenIV? Yes. I might make a tutorial on how to view hitboxes in OpenIV at some point since it's a little complicated (but once you learn it it's super easy) |
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