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Post by Sarah on Feb 28, 2017 16:00:05 GMT
Not so much related to fps-boosting but a general fps question: I seem to be in 40-60fps range with my vsync on, only tested this in freeroam as the fpscounter seems to crash on me often and i dont need that in a race. So in races i might drop even further than 40 but let's assume i'm always somewhere between 40-60fps, not stable in most locations. My question is: Would having a stable 60fps improve my times (aside from the fact that it might be easier to drive with smooth/stable fps)? Or does it not matter much that i sometimes drop to as low as 40? again, its hard to tell from system to system but there are times (especially a few times in sagtc this last season) where I've had my settings at a decent high and rain has set in at the beginning of the race, making me shift between like down to low 40s, whereas im usually at a stable 60. other than the eye cancer and a bit more troublesome handling i didnt notice too much speed difference, since it was constantly fluctuating. then again, its hard to tell from system to system |
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Post by kasumi on Feb 28, 2017 18:24:42 GMT
I think 60 is the sweet spot and that would be really necessary to have/hold 99% of the time
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Post by Simon on Mar 1, 2017 14:15:06 GMT
my fren u r big hacler i race u on sante trek u 5 sec fastr fps boost in chicane waduhek ¿
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Post by kasumi on Mar 1, 2017 14:21:52 GMT
I hacler your girlfriend away from u into my bed
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Post by Simon on Mar 1, 2017 14:23:12 GMT
why you make ¿
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Post by Grumples_Plox (grimreaper977) on Mar 1, 2017 15:53:19 GMT
Simon Living up to the lag
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Post by StoryVS on Mar 1, 2017 18:48:45 GMT
CHILLI pointed out the massive human error in Story's testing, which is something I noticed when he first posted his video. I know that I lost a bit of time with that kind of mistakes, but keep in mind that in both times, 60 and unlocked fps, were just the best lap of only 5 laps played. And a 03:02:7 is still a really good 60fps times, even if I could hit a low one or maybe 03:01:~. At fps unlocked I could surely do a low 02:58:~. I almost never played at fps boosts, and I'll be honnest, I was scared of pushing the car to the limits. And I've done really bad mistakes that we can't really see because we're focusing on the op time at the end of the video, but I promise that I can do a decent/consistent 58 with a lot of practice and maybe hit a 57 as a personnal best. What I wanted to point in the video is the difference of time between fps. I played normally and at my best, for the 5 laps played, and sorting out my personnal best time or the best of only 5 laps, the difference is still gonna be present. I'm pretty sure it would be even bigger if because I would have more practice and knowledge of the car at fps boosting. |
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Post by CHILLI on Mar 1, 2017 20:35:43 GMT
What I wanted to point in the video is the difference of time between fps. I played normally and at my best, for the 5 laps played, and sorting out my personnal best time or the best of only 5 laps, the difference is still gonna be present. I'm pretty sure it would be even bigger if because I would have more practice and knowledge of the car at fps boosting. The intent is good but the test takes a lot of risks. What I would suggest, if you are going to test this again, is to pick shorter tracks. That way you can get a lot of laps done in a short amount of time increasing the odds of setting a fair time for the current framerate. If you had no lap without clear mistakes, do another run until you've reached that requirement. Also be mindful of what lines you take and make sure that whatever you are doing on the track is easy to replicate over and over again to rule out flukes in the resulting laptimes. When I hit odd bumps I didnt intend to I made sure to slow down enough to make the current lap not count and then keep going like normally for the next laps. That way I'm hopefully repeating the same line with good enough precision that it wont massively skew the results, leaving the majority of the resulting difference to how the car reacts to the track rather than my own ability to drive. |
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Post by firefly on Mar 18, 2017 2:40:06 GMT
Been reading this thread for about an hour now and it's 3:39AM, and I still don't understand shit.
the fuck is wrong with me, I'm going to sleep.
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Post by kasumi on Mar 18, 2017 9:17:16 GMT
Been reading this thread for about an hour now and it's 3:39AM, and I still don't understand shit. the fuck is wrong with me, I'm going to sleep. Just this should help you to understand what I was trying to point out. Since the re7b speed glitch got fixed, everything is fine by now. Before there was a minor difference in speed between high and low fps, but not anymore. www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG7YMwovTtM |
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Post by firefly on Mar 18, 2017 12:27:09 GMT
Been reading this thread for about an hour now and it's 3:39AM, and I still don't understand shit. the fuck is wrong with me, I'm going to sleep. Just this should help you to understand what I was trying to point out. Since the re7b speed glitch got fixed, everything is fine by now. Before there was a minor difference in speed between high and low fps, but not anymore. www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG7YMwovTtMBut I'm very convinced that there is a difference. I was hotlapping a track with the jester RC. When I changed from 60hz + vsync to uncapped 140-160FPS I was 3 seconds quicker rightaway on a 2minute lap. I'm not the most consistent guy in the world, but I did not feel like I got a super quick lap. Maybe it was the vsync? I have 0 proof to back this up and I'm not trying to convince anyone. I'll do some more laps. |
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Post by bladecruiser on Mar 18, 2017 13:35:57 GMT
GTA's Vsync is notoriously terrible in every aspect (mainly that it not only caps FPS but also puts a hard limit on how much CPU usage happens), so that's the most likely culprit for slower lap times.
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Post by jeffreyb1990 on Mar 18, 2017 14:02:41 GMT
GTA's Vsync is notoriously terrible in every aspect (mainly that it not only caps FPS but also puts a hard limit on how much CPU usage happens), so that's the most likely culprit for slower lap times. So what should I use to cap the FPS? When I let Nvidia do it my game starts to stutter. |
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Post by kasumi on Mar 18, 2017 14:09:16 GMT
Just this should help you to understand what I was trying to point out. Since the re7b speed glitch got fixed, everything is fine by now. Before there was a minor difference in speed between high and low fps, but not anymore. www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG7YMwovTtMBut I'm very convinced that there is a difference. I was hotlapping a track with the jester RC. When I changed from 60hz + vsync to uncapped 140-160FPS I was 3 seconds quicker rightaway on a 2minute lap. I'm not the most consistent guy in the world, but I did not feel like I got a super quick lap. Maybe it was the vsync? I have 0 proof to back this up and I'm not trying to convince anyone. I'll do some more laps. First of all have u even watched all theses videos  , ( smithy saying there is no difference after playing for months with me and santelol - and 5 Test videos with different surfaces and the same outcome ; SameLaptimes ) second of all there is no point in hell playing games like gta with more fps than your refresh rate. I also hope u have not used the ingame vsync? Because there is in this thread from others mentioned a huge problem with that, so you actually go alot slower with that( they did some tests). Always use the nvidia vsync or lock your FPS they said. So before you throw something like "I am 3 second Faster" in the room. Proof it, first of all. But proof it right. Tell settings and make a proper video not like one that story did. And then still, it will not be possible to go faster. BUT maybe there is a magic border and when you like own a 165hz monitor and also have 165 fps or even 250hz ( lol ) - maye maybe there is something happening, I have no clue. Noone really testest unlocked fps correctly besides serenniel and still there the outcome was the same watch the 3rd and 2nd time. Its the same shizzle, unlocked(1:00;02) vs 60 lock(1:00;27) -> www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1zfp32Z4TM even tho she did only one test run for each setting. Still she wasted her time to find out if something weird is going on, there is not. Thanks again vor that lel. |
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Post by kasumi on Mar 18, 2017 14:12:33 GMT
dxtory or msi afterburner jeffreyb1990. Also u might try using nvidia or ingame vsync and then lock your fps to 59, maybe that helps to get rid of stuttering. Not sure.. |
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, ( smithy saying there is no difference after playing for months with me and santelol - and 5 Test videos with different surfaces and the same outcome ; SameLaptimes ) second of all there is no point in hell playing games like gta with more fps than your refresh rate. I also hope u have not used the ingame vsync? Because there is in this thread from others mentioned a huge problem with that, so you actually go alot slower with that( they did some tests). Always use the nvidia vsync or lock your FPS they said. So before you throw something like "I am 3 second Faster" in the room. Proof it, first of all. But proof it right. Tell settings and make a proper video not like one that story did. And then still, it will not be possible to go faster. BUT maybe there is a magic border and when you like own a 165hz monitor and also have 165 fps or even 250hz ( lol ) - maye maybe there is something happening, I have no clue. Noone really testest unlocked fps correctly besides serenniel and still there the outcome was the same watch the 3rd and 2nd time. Its the same shizzle, unlocked(1:00;02) vs 60 lock(1:00;27) ->