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Post by jeffreyb1990 on Mar 18, 2017 14:23:16 GMT
dxtory or msi afterburner jeffreyb1990. Also u might try using nvidia or ingame vsync and then lock your fps to 59, maybe that helps to get rid of stuttering. Not sure.. Thx, Kasumi. I will try those out. |
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Post by kasumi on Mar 18, 2017 14:35:01 GMT
but jeffreyb1990 I remember 100% you play on keyboard, why you want to have vsync ΒΏ Don't you feel things are goin quite well with zero inputlag whilst u put vsync off and lock your fps. Still maybe u haven't ever played without vsync and locked fps tho. Find it out for yourself. Locking fps is much better for keyboard and mouse gameplay, in any game since like forever =) But I understand that u might had sutters with all possibilities except ingame vsync one. I hope locking fps will help you out. Before trying to lock to 59 and having nvidia vsync or the ingame one active, just lock to 60 and vsync off. And u should have no problems. When your screen is tearing and that bothers you, try to lock your fps to 58 or 59. I have no experience with tearing whilst locking to to 60 fps on 60hz. But I heard about that. Merphos said it is terrible, but on 120+hz screen tearing is not really a problem anymore, and we are not forced to use vsync to remove stuttering just because a game isn't optimized or was optimized and now is in fact absolutely fucked up performance wise  |
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Post by firefly on Mar 18, 2017 15:06:08 GMT
But I'm very convinced that there is a difference. I was hotlapping a track with the jester RC. When I changed from 60hz + vsync to uncapped 140-160FPS I was 3 seconds quicker rightaway on a 2minute lap. I'm not the most consistent guy in the world, but I did not feel like I got a super quick lap. Maybe it was the vsync? I have 0 proof to back this up and I'm not trying to convince anyone. I'll do some more laps. First of all have u even watched all theses videos  , ( smithy saying there is no difference after playing for months with me and santelol - and 5 Test videos with different surfaces and the same outcome ; SameLaptimes ) second of all there is no point in hell playing games like gta with more fps than your refresh rate. I also hope u have not used the ingame vsync? Because there is in this thread from others mentioned a huge problem with that, so you actually go alot slower with that( they did some tests). Always use the nvidia vsync or lock your FPS they said. So before you throw something like "I am 3 second Faster" in the room. Proof it, first of all. But proof it right. Tell settings and make a proper video not like one that story did. And then still, it will not be possible to go faster. BUT maybe there is a magic border and when you like own a 165hz monitor and also have 165 fps or even 250hz ( lol ) - maye maybe there is something happening, I have no clue. Noone really testest unlocked fps correctly besides serenniel and still there the outcome was the same watch the 3rd and 2nd time. Its the same shizzle, unlocked(1:00;02) vs 60 lock(1:00;27) -> www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1zfp32Z4TM even tho she did only one test run for each setting. Still she wasted her time to find out if something weird is going on, there is not. Thanks again vor that lel. Yeah I was using the ingame V-sync. That's probably what was causing it. |
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Post by jeffreyb1990 on Mar 18, 2017 15:14:58 GMT
but jeffreyb1990 I remember 100% you play on keyboard, why you want to have vsync ΒΏ Don't you feel things are goin quite well with zero inputlag whilst u put vsync off and lock your fps. Still maybe u haven't ever played without vsync and locked fps tho. Find it out for yourself. Locking fps is much better for keyboard and mouse gameplay, in any game since like forever =) But I understand that u might had sutters with all possibilities except ingame vsync one. I hope locking fps will help you out. Before trying to lock to 59 and having nvidia vsync or the ingame one active, just lock to 60 and vsync off. And u should have no problems. When your screen is tearing and that bothers you, try to lock your fps to 58 or 59. I have no experience with tearing whilst locking to to 60 fps on 60hz. But I heard about that. Merphos said it is terrible, but on 120+hz screen tearing is not really a problem anymore, and we are not forced to use vsync to remove stuttering just because a game isn't optimized or was optimized and now is in fact absolutely fucked up performance wise Yes, I play on keyboard, but I never locked my fps. I always used vsync, simply because I never looked into stuff like this. Screen tearing might be an issue as I play on a laptop and the screen is just 60Hz, but in-game vsync caps it at 61-62 fps and I have no tearing. I'm at work at the moment, so I can't try it out yet. Btw there's one strange thing. When driving the shortest version of Kloden's Spa I always have a higher topspeed than anyone else at the end of the long straight where it goes a bit downhill, but I slowly lose that advantage on the uphill that follows. Any explanation for that? |
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Post by kasumi on Mar 18, 2017 15:37:26 GMT
not at all :c since the ingame vsync is doing lmao things, just try to find another way when you are back later
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Post by scenic on Mar 18, 2017 18:07:00 GMT
I'm guessing jeffreyb1990 is in for a significant speed upgrade, there have been several of us running in-game vsync at 62/63fps and experiencing a massive boost (2-4%) by setting exactly 60fps externally or unlocked (between which there is no meaningful difference, with the potential exception of unlocked fps reaching 165-170 range as demonstrated by StoryVS)
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Post by Sarah on Mar 19, 2017 8:39:08 GMT
pretty sure all evidence point towards in-game v-sync at 60 being bad. that being said im 99% sure thats what doom uses and my testing shows that if i use in-game v-sync at 144, my laps tend to be a bit quicker overall. so idk games fucked yo
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Post by _ShediM_ on Mar 19, 2017 11:53:38 GMT
Well, Nvidia vsync seems to be an okay option to use. No tearing+for some reason it has less input lag than in-game vsync (at least that's my case). For those with gtx 9xx's or 1xxx's there's another feature that's called nvidia fast sync. Gets rid of tearing and is said to introduce zero lag. Can't confirm nor deny since I'm still running a 780. One thing's certain - vsync's implementation in GTA V is fucked up, even nvidia's requires to alt+tab, otherwise it will act weirdly, laggy. In-game is definitely the worst.
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Post by jeffreyb1990 on Mar 19, 2017 12:22:39 GMT
Rivatuner that comes with Afterburner crashes my game every time  |
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Post by jeffreyb1990 on Mar 19, 2017 13:04:31 GMT
Well, Nvidia vsync seems to be an okay option to use. No tearing+for some reason it has less input lag than in-game vsync (at least that's my case). For those with gtx 9xx's or 1xxx's there's another feature that's called nvidia fast sync. Gets rid of tearing and is said to introduce zero lag. Can't confirm nor deny since I'm still running a 780. One thing's certain - vsync's implementation in GTA V is fucked up, even nvidia's requires to alt+tab, otherwise it will act weirdly, laggy. In-game is definitely the worst. I will try out the nvidia fast sync as I have a GTX970M in my laptop |
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Post by neutreN on Mar 19, 2017 13:24:43 GMT
Well, Nvidia vsync seems to be an okay option to use. No tearing+for some reason it has less input lag than in-game vsync (at least that's my case). For those with gtx 9xx's or 1xxx's there's another feature that's called nvidia fast sync. Gets rid of tearing and is said to introduce zero lag. Can't confirm nor deny since I'm still running a 780. One thing's certain - vsync's implementation in GTA V is fucked up, even nvidia's requires to alt+tab, otherwise it will act weirdly, laggy. In-game is definitely the worst. I just checked my vsync options and noticed the "fast" vsync setting, i hadn't seen it before but im going to try it today |
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Post by jeffreyb1990 on Mar 19, 2017 13:44:00 GMT
Fast vsync doesn't cap your fps. It's just vsync off, but it should fix screen tearing. I'm trying out adaptive now and my game seems to run smoother. However I don't think I'm faster now.
Edit: I'm suddenly 0.3-0.5 seconds faster on 1:20 laptimes.
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Post by silkie on Mar 19, 2017 16:02:38 GMT
Fast vsync doesn't cap your fps. It's just vsync off, but it should fix screen tearing. I'm trying out adaptive now and my game seems to run smoother. However I don't think I'm faster now. Edit: I'm suddenly 0.3-0.5 seconds faster on 1:20 laptimes. And you just enable it on the Nvidia Configuration screen? Just GTA.exe right? im gonna try it myself tonight  |
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Post by jeffreyb1990 on Mar 19, 2017 17:00:28 GMT
Fast vsync doesn't cap your fps. It's just vsync off, but it should fix screen tearing. I'm trying out adaptive now and my game seems to run smoother. However I don't think I'm faster now. Edit: I'm suddenly 0.3-0.5 seconds faster on 1:20 laptimes. And you just enable it on the Nvidia Configuration screen? Just GTA.exe right? im gonna try it myself tonight Yes, in 'manage 3D settings'. I just put 'global settings' on adaptive vsync and for gta5.exe it's on 'use global settings'. |
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Post by FriendlyBaron on Mar 19, 2017 17:14:29 GMT
Just fyi fast vsync is not a 60fps lock and not eligible to be used in events with locks.
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, ( smithy saying there is no difference after playing for months with me and santelol - and 5 Test videos with different surfaces and the same outcome ; SameLaptimes ) second of all there is no point in hell playing games like gta with more fps than your refresh rate. I also hope u have not used the ingame vsync? Because there is in this thread from others mentioned a huge problem with that, so you actually go alot slower with that( they did some tests). Always use the nvidia vsync or lock your FPS they said. So before you throw something like "I am 3 second Faster" in the room. Proof it, first of all. But proof it right. Tell settings and make a proper video not like one that story did. And then still, it will not be possible to go faster. BUT maybe there is a magic border and when you like own a 165hz monitor and also have 165 fps or even 250hz ( lol ) - maye maybe there is something happening, I have no clue. Noone really testest unlocked fps correctly besides serenniel and still there the outcome was the same watch the 3rd and 2nd time. Its the same shizzle, unlocked(1:00;02) vs 60 lock(1:00;27) -> 
