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Post by Pundip on Oct 3, 2014 12:37:37 GMT
Personally I think a couple your classes are wrong but I won't go into detail. Purely because it should be left up to the event organiser if they would like to ban particular cars or not. When it comes to racing in the odd playlist with crew members, anything is acceptable unless a particular car has been agreed upon as banned in the skype chat.
Trying to set up a crew wide ban on certain cars for everything is just pointless and everything in the shoutbox over the past day or so a on the topic got a bit out of hand. If it did come down to it, and the crew had to vote on these bans or not I would be firmly in the no corner.
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Post by axdsilva on Oct 3, 2014 13:19:47 GMT
I don't think a ban is a solution, it feels like punishing people for spending in-game money on the only car of that class they have.
We need something more rewarding and better insentive, such as an RPM suystem that Broughy's video was talking about for for cars.
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Lets face it, banning one car, means the next one on the list becomes the new 'favorite'
That's why it needs to be appealing rather than forced. Those who want to drive that car will probably drive it better than someone who would just complain about the circumstances
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Post by double_s92 on Oct 3, 2014 13:39:58 GMT
Those who want to drive that car will probably drive it better than someone who would just complain about the circumstances This ^ Each to their own though, I know some find the feltzer a much more predictable and controllable car than the elegy. For me it's the complete opposite. |
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Post by Renegade1911 on Oct 3, 2014 13:54:51 GMT
None. This is pointless. If you ban one car another one will emerge as the best. We have mics, we can just agree on not using some vehicle before starting a playlist if we crave more variety, can we not?
I think all these unconventional races PS3 guys organise are a good way to add some spice into everyday racing. Yet there's noone trying to organize them (not criticising, just observing that the demant for this on Xbox is not very high).
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Post by spartan2291 on Oct 3, 2014 14:30:31 GMT
Honestly I have heard a lot of crew members complain that the Elegy is difficult to control and that they dislike racing with it as they are way off the pace.
I love the Elegy but I haven't raced with it in a while, but it can be unforgiving if you aren't full throttle nearly all the time. The car hates half throttle inputs and will break loose the second you aren't using the car to it's full potential.
There are plenty of cars that can win with the correct driver and often the elegy doesn't mesh with some driver styles.
Hell, a whole lobby of NODO2 was getting smoked by some ace in a 9F last night.
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Post by strikeslip on Oct 3, 2014 14:32:50 GMT
I think Can't Drive 55 Andy has a playlist of vehicle-specific tracks, with forced vehicles, a fun list to break away from the usual vehicles.
I try to have my laptop with me to run Skype, but it's not always possible. I do always have my mic, though, and I'm a team player. So I'm always up for specific vehicles. However, I don't have a huge variety of upgraded cars (other than the favourites), so would prefer 'no customs' if that's the case.
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Post by parksguard on Oct 3, 2014 14:33:08 GMT
This is something that should be done by the race organizer/via skype chat or mic beforehand. Your reasoning behind certain vehicle bans is somewhat inconsistent.
Example: Most everyone says the elegy is OP, however almost never see Elegys on PS3 side anymore because no one really likes the way they handle and with simple track design characteristics you can make them unfavourable to use much like using a blade on a very tight track . Now on the other hand no one bats an eye that during supers races the grid is almost exclusively zentornos save for a couple of stragglers in a turismo. I almost never see entitys anymore because everyone sold theirs for zentornos when they became obsolete (which I do not blame anyone for because supers are an expensive class). So why should the zentorno not be banned? It would seem to me the class would be more diverse between the entity and turismo if no one used the zentorno anymore due to their vast difference in handling.
All that aside, one of two things will happen A) all the top cars get beat in time by a new car and therefore never get used again (much like the entity v zentorno) or B) we ban a car's use and then the 2nd best car become the one that gets exclusively used.
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Post by vxwk on Oct 3, 2014 14:56:30 GMT
Banning cars is a ridiculous idea. Shit thread.
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Post by parksguard on Oct 3, 2014 15:43:26 GMT
I also think that setting a total ban on a car wouldn't work and I'm certain Broughy would be against it. The suggestions I made about each class are the rules I would implement if I organised an event but my view is that we can't stop people from driving a certain car if that's what they want to drive. It is a shame that some classes are just dominated by a certain car, thankfully a lot of Nodo's no longer use the Elegy but for classes like Sedan's and SUV's there is no variety when the classes are dominated by a car which is the only car people own for that class. I was thinking about buying a fugitive because it looks great, but I need to see where it stacks up fully modded. I know it has no spoiler which really blows  |
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Post by rdt33 on Oct 3, 2014 16:21:15 GMT
Formula 1 isn't going to force drivers to use Indy cars because they are inferior. It makes no sense to ban any car at all. Just my thoughts.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2014 16:38:25 GMT
Banning the dominator is stupid.It's a proper muscle car that's hard to handle.The blade should be banned as it's the training wheels of the muscle class.Other than that I agree with the rest,except for sedans which I don't think is necessary.
EDIT:And no car should be banned anyway.If people want to use a car let them use it.If you're hosting an event/lobby ban whatever you want but no way would should there be a crew wide ban.
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Post by parksguard on Oct 3, 2014 16:54:22 GMT
Banning the dominator is stupid.It's a proper muscle car that's hard to handle.The blade should be banned as it's the training wheels of the muscle class.Other than that I agree with the rest,except for sedans which I don't think is necessary. EDIT:And no car should be banned anyway.If people want to use a car let them use it.If you're hosting an event/lobby ban whatever you want but no way would should there be a crew wide ban. But I like the blade :[ It looks nice and it handles like a drag car. No steering to speak of with a lot of power in a light package. It is actually fairly realistic to what it is trying to mimic. |
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Post by vxwk on Oct 3, 2014 18:28:01 GMT
Banning the dominator is stupid.It's a proper muscle car that's hard to handle.The blade should be banned as it's the training wheels of the muscle class.Other than that I agree with the rest,except for sedans which I don't think is necessary. EDIT:And no car should be banned anyway.If people want to use a car let them use it.If you're hosting an event/lobby ban whatever you want but no way would should there be a crew wide ban. I agree. |
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Post by Ser Tandur on Oct 4, 2014 2:33:49 GMT
I think it's just up to the events to be unique and use certain cars. An Ubermaacht only event. Classic Muscle events. Try to give the event a flavor. Convertibles only. FWD playlist.
The event organizer also has to take track considerations into mind, as pundip said. There are tracks that exist or can be made that give the lower grip cars a chance. Keep that in mind.
I know we all kinda wish we could do open GT events and there could be comets, feltzers, conquettes, carbonizzares, 9Fs, etc., every car in the class was an option, but with a limited vehicle library, the cars are generally too segregated.
Edit: And I'd love to propose new events, but I'm the new guy that sucks. I read/been told there's not a lot of Xbox interest, but I see quite a few online daily. An event a day is possible, I think. I think that'll get more regulars out of the woodwork. How many potential spots are available in active events? 48 for the Xbox I believe, and 1/3rd of that is off-road, not the most popular.
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Post by Trowa on Oct 4, 2014 5:16:01 GMT
I just race what I want. I own a bunch of cars that are not the absolute fastest and they all see the track when I see a chance to use them. The only class that I really think banning makes a massive impact on is off-road. No more Sanchez makes an instant impact on those races completely changing the vibe of them for the better imo. The other classes would remain the same more or less. Just with a new top car.
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