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Post by KoBo_043 on Aug 5, 2016 7:34:02 GMT
How about instead of announcing the purge, waiting a week, and having a big discussion, the crew just immediately gets purged at 1000? No delay. Surely that would take less work, and it would drastically reduce the window where no one is able to join. It also reduces the downside of having a 1000 member limit. A delayed purge is really only necessary for Representatives. This is pretty much what we have in mind for PC and PS4 now. At least we're going to try it for a while, and see how that works out. From what I've seen the crew went from 400 to 600 in about a day. If this would be a steady rate, there'd be 2 purges a week (which seems way to often). But the rate doesn't continue like that, only on the first day after the purge. At current growth, purges would generally be bi-weekly, and with the exception of the past month, they were more like 3-4 weeks apart (without the delay.) The reason the crew was so crowded during July is because Broughy's subscription numbers jumped rapidly that month. While this may not be temporary, I do think the release of a quasi-racing DLC had something to do with it. In other words, the past month was not normal, and a decision about the future of the crew should not be made assuming it was. Maybe if August and September turn out to be the same. This is true. Also with a lot of people having breaks from school and such, there are always more players during the summer months. Before we go into any drastic changes (like going I.O. or a 2nd crew) we want to try less drastic changes first. P.S. I took the liberty of editing the title of the thread to accomodate the discussion FriendlyBaron
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Post by Benimi on Aug 5, 2016 7:48:25 GMT
I don't see any advantage to be in the official NODO SC crew, so I left it, because I needed to join 1 more "sponsor crew" for an another event. I think it would be usefull if others see this as well.
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Post by KoBo_043 on Aug 5, 2016 8:16:11 GMT
I don't see any advantage to be in the official NODO SC crew, so I left it, because I needed to join 1 more "sponsor crew" for an another event. I think it would be usefull if others see this as well. Lot's of members have other crews active for a variety of reasons. Actually being in NoDo is especially helpfull for newer members, not so much for the 'established core' of the crew, as they tend to invite from their friends list instead of crew. All little bits help, but I don't think everybody is going to leave the SC crew, just to free up some extra space.
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Post by Skirakzalus on Aug 5, 2016 10:58:27 GMT
I don't see any advantage to be in the official NODO SC crew, so I left it, because I needed to join 1 more "sponsor crew" for an another event. I think it would be usefull if others see this as well. Lot's of members have other crews active for a variety of reasons. Actually being in NoDo is especially helpfull for newer members, not so much for the 'established core' of the crew, as they tend to invite from their friends list instead of crew. All little bits help, but I don't think everybody is going to leave the SC crew, just to free up some extra space. Well, I would do that, especially as the invites go over SC friends list, but what about the rep status (for hosting events)?
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Post by KoBo_043 on Aug 5, 2016 12:10:56 GMT
Lot's of members have other crews active for a variety of reasons. Actually being in NoDo is especially helpfull for newer members, not so much for the 'established core' of the crew, as they tend to invite from their friends list instead of crew. All little bits help, but I don't think everybody is going to leave the SC crew, just to free up some extra space. Well, I would do that, especially as the invites go over SC friends list, but what about the rep status (for hosting events)? For established members of the community, exceptions could be made I guess.
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Post by Jackimo on Aug 5, 2016 12:18:39 GMT
But then what defines an "established" member of the community? I think one thing that could work is that we could have a list of representatives across all platforms. So this would be a list of members that have completed all the steps required to get promoted on one platform or another, meaning that once you're promoted to rep and on that list you no longer have to be in the Social Club crew. I'm not sure how the internal process works but it may also lessen the work on commissioners because instead of having to check everything twice they can just check this list. It may also increase the workload, I don't know.
This would also be necessary if we implement my earlier idea of requiring new members to participate in an event before being promoted to representative.
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Post by arsenalgunner20 on Aug 5, 2016 12:52:59 GMT
Lot's of members have other crews active for a variety of reasons. Actually being in NoDo is especially helpfull for newer members, not so much for the 'established core' of the crew, as they tend to invite from their friends list instead of crew. All little bits help, but I don't think everybody is going to leave the SC crew, just to free up some extra space. Well, I would do that, especially as the invites go over SC friends list, but what about the rep status (for hosting events)? I've seen that multiple suggestions and remarks in this thread are mostly PC-based, which is fine, but you need to keep in mind that this is just the case for PC, not the other platforms. 1. Requires extra effort for us Comm's 2. Makes the threshold to join higher (which I admit isn't persé a bad thing, but it IS what makes the crew appealing to everyone.
Does it though?
Right now you still have to go through a promotion based process which requires people who actually read the instruction on SC to register here and link their profile.
If the process included a signup here, and people could elect for a Muscle role (I just want to race cleanly) or a Representative role (I want to get involved in playlists and events and be active in the NoDo community), then you're actually able to streamline things a bit.
And being open might be attractive but it's allowing people to join, get kicked, rejoin, get kicked every couple of weeks. It's not working.
This highlighted part is also very PC aimed, keep in mind that console racing is basically only PC, so questions may arise on that point too.
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Post by Skirakzalus on Aug 5, 2016 12:56:05 GMT
Well, I would do that, especially as the invites go over SC friends list, but what about the rep status (for hosting events)? For established members of the community, exceptions could be made I guess. That's nice, but I can see quite a problem in keeping track of this. I mean, it is your decision, but it most certainly would cause extra work to have exceptions for some of the x-hundred people on the forum, though many might not host an event ever. Looking at the rep-requirement itself, it is mostly to have the signature in a certain way, an introduction of some sort and a post in the promotion thread. If people would link their introduction (which could be updated to show event-participation) in their signature, you could check if that person can be a host without going through a list with hundreds of names, which might be easier, I dunno.
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Post by Skirakzalus on Aug 5, 2016 13:06:32 GMT
I've seen that multiple suggestions and remarks in this thread are mostly PC-based, which is fine, but you need to keep in mind that this is just the case for PC, not the other platforms. Only played GTAOnline on console once, so I don't know how it is handled there. But from what I've seen the PS4 side has the same "problem" (if you want to define an active and growing community as a problem xD), so it wouldn't be bad to get to a solution that works for both, unless it is quite suboptimal for one (or even both).
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Post by arsenalgunner20 on Aug 5, 2016 13:07:46 GMT
I've seen that multiple suggestions and remarks in this thread are mostly PC-based, which is fine, but you need to keep in mind that this is just the case for PC, not the other platforms. Only played GTAOnline on console once, so I don't know how it is handled there. But from what I've seen the PS4 side has the same "problem" (if you want to define an active and growing community as a problem xD), so it wouldn't be bad to get to a solution that works for both, unless it is quite suboptimal for one (or even both). Well I didn't mean that problem, but I meant that some of the solutions are a bit PC based, and therefore not optimal for consoles.
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Post by endersai on Aug 5, 2016 13:10:08 GMT
Well, I would do that, especially as the invites go over SC friends list, but what about the rep status (for hosting events)? I've seen that multiple suggestions and remarks in this thread are mostly PC-based, which is fine, but you need to keep in mind that this is just the case for PC, not the other platforms.
Does it though?
Right now you still have to go through a promotion based process which requires people who actually read the instruction on SC to register here and link their profile.
If the process included a signup here, and people could elect for a Muscle role (I just want to race cleanly) or a Representative role (I want to get involved in playlists and events and be active in the NoDo community), then you're actually able to streamline things a bit.
And being open might be attractive but it's allowing people to join, get kicked, rejoin, get kicked every couple of weeks. It's not working.
This highlighted part is also very PC aimed, keep in mind that console racing is basically only PC, so questions may arise on that point too. Erm... playlist racing? But, yes, we're talking about PC for the avoidance of doubt.
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Post by arsenalgunner20 on Aug 5, 2016 13:11:28 GMT
I've seen that multiple suggestions and remarks in this thread are mostly PC-based, which is fine, but you need to keep in mind that this is just the case for PC, not the other platforms. This highlighted part is also very PC aimed, keep in mind that console racing is basically only PC, so questions may arise on that point too. Erm... playlist racing? But, yes, we're talking about PC for the avoidance of doubt. Yeah I meant to write playlist racing.
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Post by arsenalgunner20 on Aug 5, 2016 13:40:10 GMT
I've seen that multiple suggestions and remarks in this thread are mostly PC-based, which is fine, but you need to keep in mind that this is just the case for PC, not the other platforms. Up until a few hours ago when the title was changed, this was the PC purge thread. So, that's why. I am aware of that, but I just wanted to point it out.
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Post by FriendlyBaron on Aug 5, 2016 14:18:23 GMT
Discussion for any console is welcome here, PC and PS4 espcially as we are in similar boats
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Post by scenic on Aug 5, 2016 14:36:07 GMT
Maybe all members should open a ticket with R*, requesting a higher limit on crews without forfeiting control IGN-style. That might make the blip a little bigger on Rockstar's radar, and if the current limit is an arbitrary one that can be easily changed without any dependencies, a petition with plenty of voices behind it might tip the scales.
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