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Post by Daleks (@darkalex45) on Jun 1, 2017 11:03:48 GMT
Ok I'll also give my two cents on the setup discussion: Banning setups is stupid in my opinion. MCEC is supposed to be the championship for the best racers in the crew and everyone who races longer than a year should know what car he likes and which car he doesn't like. We don't have a choice for cars, for us its pretty much random which one of the 250 CARS we will drive. I owned this game since it came on PC and I don't even have 1/3 of them and I mostly keep the cars I buy. I haven't even driven the Banshee 900R yet... (I really damn want to though )
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Post by Daleks (@darkalex45) on Jun 1, 2017 11:08:30 GMT
Personally I agree with Doom and Blade (and the others that agreed with them). For those of us that have full time jobs, families and real life stuff to monitor and balance just for one race every few weeks, any extra time needed on car setups is time wasted. To tell us that we shouldn't enter because we don't have the time to find this magical set up us rude. I'd rather be beaten on track because someone is actually better than me, not because they've fiddled with every imaginable setup going. I also don't have the cash to do this, some of us are already expected to grind for a few hours just to get a car for each race. When some car parts are tens of thousands of dollars, there's a point where you have to draw the line. Okay I guess that's fair about being told not to sign up, but remember that the set ups don't make *that much* of a difference in terms of performance. It's more for people to loath a car slightly less by making it behave better, or giving it a setup they'd prefer (like oversteer vs understeer in a MRC or DRC). 1:30 is a lot of time in a car, it'd be nice to change it around. And if someone really doesn't care to fine tune the car, then they can just make the car look pretty at least I think the main problem is everyone wants to loath a car less, it will make them feel better and by that alone they could improve their laptimes. Problem is mostly time and the fact that its so annoying (and expensive) to change your setups all the time between trying it out on a track, so not everyone can do that. I already die of the grind that is earning money, I just can't spend extra hours in my day to find the right setup. Its painful. Its why I never bothered to change my setups for anything.
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Post by cameronman1329 on Jun 1, 2017 11:13:51 GMT
It's been less than 24 hours since this thread was made. People are already complaining about rules of an event people they join voluntarily. You have your opinions, no need to post 4 pages on it. Say it once and leave it there people are calmly having a discussion where they voice their different opinions on the matter of event rules (which the OP specifically asks for suggestions on) no need to make a chicken out of a feather and as an event host id be honored to see people caring so much for the event tbh. theres no ill intent in any post just people who have an opinion on what would fit the event better As I've said you've given the opinion. There's no need to keep going. After about 3 posts there was enough said for Broughy to make a decision. Since then it's been post after post of pretty much what has been said, or what is common knowledge. I'm just saying this will go on forever as the "discussion" is just the same points recycled. Up to you, I'm just trying to show you that point was made long ago, there'd no need to keep stating it.
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Post by scenic on Jun 1, 2017 11:15:51 GMT
Knowing nothing about the previous MCEC, so maybe this is all settled Nodo law by now, but why no discussion on grid position, starting procedure and qualifying? This seems like important factors potentially determining the race outcome with many different options available, and the first 20 seconds of the race is just as important as the next 20 minutes. I always thought it an interesting idea to have one lap of non-contact qualifying to determine grid-position just pre-race.
Also, what is the reasoning behind 3 GT classes, which seems like a Nodo default? Is it an integral part of the race that the fastest will lap the slowest, and to make that practical the slowest drivers must have slower cars for easier passing? Seems the racing could be just as good with everyone in the same car, but still starting in different staggered groups. If passing is a fun randomish element, why not start GT3 even later (catchup sooner) or even first, maybe even with faster cars? Too much mayhem, easier to pass them once they have settled into their place/pace and gotten past the first incident-prone first few laps? These are not proposals, just questions, trying to dissect the Nodo-formula of an ideal race for my own curiosity. I'm guessing it's to add some spice to GT1 lappers over a long race, and to make the slower GTs feel part of the race, without directly competing/comparing with the fastest??
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Post by MikeBWFC on Jun 1, 2017 11:16:20 GMT
Didn't think there was gona be another season, really enjoyed last season and would love to take part again.
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Post by Sarah on Jun 1, 2017 11:20:39 GMT
stuff and as an event host id be honored to see people caring so much for the event tbh. theres no ill intent in any post just people who have an opinion on what would fit the event better As I've said you've given the opinion. There's no need to keep going. After about 3 posts there was enough said for Broughy to make a decision. Since then it's been post after post of pretty much what has been said, or what is common knowledge. I'm just saying this will go on forever as the "discussion" is just the same points recycled. Up to you, I'm just trying to show you that point was made long ago, there'd no need to keep stating it. if people still have something they want to say as long as they do that in a respectful manner i see nothing wrong You cant just draw an imaginary line whenever you feel the discussion is over when people have more stuff they want to post and discuss imo anyway also i havent posted my opinion im just being supportive of those who have/are
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Post by nintendocore666 on Jun 1, 2017 11:20:40 GMT
Ok I'll also give my two cents on the setup discussion: Banning setups is stupid in my opinion. MCEC is supposed to be the championship for the best racers in the crew and everyone who races longer than a year should know what car he likes and which car he doesn't like. We don't have a choice for cars, for us its pretty much random which one of the 250 CARS we will drive. I owned this game since it came on PC and I don't even have 1/3 of them and I mostly keep the cars I buy. I haven't even driven the Banshee 900R yet... (I really damn want to though ) I know cars are selected by Bruffy - I can only speak for PS4 here but most people on Slack have about 100 cars so you have experience with a lot of different cars where you know what you like. We use the staggered starts PLs a lot though which is not a thing on other platforms I assume....
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Post by Brady on Jun 1, 2017 11:25:16 GMT
Knowing nothing about the previous MCEC, so maybe this is all settled Nodo law by now, but why no discussion on grid position, starting procedure and qualifying? This seems like important factors potentially determining the race outcome with many different options available, and the first 20 seconds of the race is just as important as the next 20 minutes. I always thought it an interesting idea to have one lap of non-contact qualifying to determine grid-position just pre-race. Also, what is the reasoning behind 3 GT classes, which seems like a Nodo default? Is it an integral part of the race that the fastest will lap the slowest, and to make that practical the slowest drivers must have slower cars for easier passing? Seems the racing could be just as good with everyone in the same car, but still starting in different staggered groups. If passing is a fun randomish element, why not start GT3 even later (catchup sooner) or even first, maybe even with faster cars? Too much mayhem, easier to pass them once they have settled into their place/pace and gotten past the first incident-prone first few laps? These are not proposals, just questions, trying to dissect the Nodo-formula of an ideal race for my own curiosity. I'm guessing it's to add some spice to GT1 lappers over a long race, and to make the slower GTs feel part of the race, without directly competing/comparing with the fastest?? Everything like this is already decided and or common sense.
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Post by jt33396 on Jun 1, 2017 11:25:21 GMT
We don't have a choice for cars, for us its pretty much random which one of the 250 CARS we will drive. I owned this game since it came on PC and I don't even have 1/3 of them and I mostly keep the cars I buy. I haven't even driven the Banshee 900R yet... (I really damn want to though ) I know cars are selected by Bruffy - I can only speak for PS4 here but most people on Slack have about 100 cars so you have experience with a lot of different cars where you know what you like. We use the staggered starts PLs a lot though which is not a thing on other platforms I assume.... I think PC has it as well. I guess car choice could be left to Broughy, but input would be nice, or at least cars that haven't been used in the past provided we have enough options (I.e compacts)
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Post by Tsupernami on Jun 1, 2017 11:27:51 GMT
people are calmly having a discussion where they voice their different opinions on the matter of event rules (which the OP specifically asks for suggestions on) no need to make a chicken out of a feather and as an event host id be honored to see people caring so much for the event tbh. theres no ill intent in any post just people who have an opinion on what would fit the event better As I've said you've given the opinion. There's no need to keep going. After about 3 posts there was enough said for Broughy to make a decision. Since then it's been post after post of pretty much what has been said, or what is common knowledge. I'm just saying this will go on forever as the "discussion" is just the same points recycled. Up to you, I'm just trying to show you that point was made long ago, there'd no need to keep stating it. I agree that if old points are just getting reiterated it's a pain to trawl through, but from my perspective it's been weighted in favour of one side. I just wanted to show that there are more people defending doom's original point if Broughy was looking at this democratically. As for new points, this is an endurance race. Therefore the finishing positions should be determined by the quality of the driver, not the details of the car. 1 tenth of a second per 1 minute lap equates to 1 minute 30 in a 1 hour 30 race. That's a huge amount of time. I don't think any person deserves that much of a bonus, simply because they've spent 10 hours perfecting their set up.
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Post by cameronman1329 on Jun 1, 2017 11:28:01 GMT
As I've said you've given the opinion. There's no need to keep going. After about 3 posts there was enough said for Broughy to make a decision. Since then it's been post after post of pretty much what has been said, or what is common knowledge. I'm just saying this will go on forever as the "discussion" is just the same points recycled. Up to you, I'm just trying to show you that point was made long ago, there'd no need to keep stating it. if people still have something they want to say as long as they do that in a respectful manner i see nothing wrong You cant just draw an imaginary line whenever you feel the discussion is over when people have more stuff they want to post and discuss imo anyway also i havent posted my opinion im just being supportive of those who have/are That's fine. I'm just saying that pretty much everything needing to be said has, and it seems to be going in a loop. While it's respectful now, given how the last MCEC threads have gone, it could quickly turn sour. Again, have no problem with it like it is, just trying to show everything needing to be said has. Let's just leave it there, could've worded my original post better. This doesn't have any relevance to the event anymore, so yeah, in way of my intentions, let's just go back to discussing the event instead of this. My bad if offended anyone, just don't want this to end up like the last MCEC thread.
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Post by NicotheRider on Jun 1, 2017 11:33:10 GMT
I wouldn't say that there are more people defending Doom's point. TsupernamiLooked equal to me so far.
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Post by PeeJay🍍 on Jun 1, 2017 11:33:42 GMT
I've signed up, fingers crossed I'll be able to compete in my first MCEC. If not there's always the secondary championship.
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Post by Tsupernami on Jun 1, 2017 11:36:42 GMT
I wouldn't say that there are more people defending Doom's point. TsupernamiLooked equal to me so far. I think it's lost in translation, from my perspective there were less defending him, and I wanted to show that there were more that hadn't yet commented. If in a group of 300 only 15 have spoken with a split of 5 to 10,I don't think they represent the majority.
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Post by justus2036 on Jun 1, 2017 11:48:43 GMT
"There will be 27 drivers for each platform and they will be chosen >>>based on involvement in NoDo racing events recently<<< and participation in past MCEC seasons, in addition to general good attitude and behaviour." When i signed up i was only able to submit one event even tho i have been in 3 events so far. (I submitted Tepcott ) I just wanted to say that Tepcott hasn't been my only event. (-Tepcott nodo.freeforums.net/thread/10213/completed-pc-tepcott-season-1 ) My other Events: -My Beer, my burger, my cigarette (http://nodo.freeforums.net/thread/10948/complete-beer-burger-cigarette-27th ) -Too hot to handle (http://nodo.freeforums.net/thread/10696/hot-handle-multiclass-endurance-complete )
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