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Post by jeffreyb1990 on Dec 19, 2015 14:54:14 GMT
Also you still get punished for a crash you didn't even cause. If we keep it this way we have give the driver that caused the crash a drivethrough to keep it fair. which is what is suppose to happen I still think it's strange that it doesn't count as a mandatory pitstop. But about something else. How are accidents involving the MDSB being handled? |
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Post by bladecruiser on Dec 19, 2015 15:00:39 GMT
which is what is suppose to happen I still think it's strange that it doesn't count as a mandatory pitstop. But about something else. How are accidents involving the MDSB being handled? Same as other accidents? The person at fault gets the penalty, and if it caused a bigger pile up, safety cars come out. |
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Post by jeffreyb1990 on Dec 19, 2015 15:10:25 GMT
I still think it's strange that it doesn't count as a mandatory pitstop. But about something else. How are accidents involving the MDSB being handled? Same as other accidents? The person at fault gets the penalty, and if it caused a bigger pile up, safety cars come out. So if you do the MDSB with someone on your rear bumper and they hit you because of it, it's your fault, right? |
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Post by ovivoJR on Dec 19, 2015 15:15:14 GMT
ovivoJR Nice video! But I was wondering, in some of the sharper turns you see the side of your car and to me it seems like your car almost 'floats' over the track. Did you change something in your settings so your game runs smoother or something like that? This is a common phenomenon when a driver exceeds the limits of a car. Senna did that on Monaco. Viewers quoted that he was going through Barriere in a turn. This occured because he drove so close to them. So that might explain why my car looks like it floats. But this is also a characteristic of the Carbo. Very loose on the rear. SATCC Round 12: Season FinaleIn the end of the season the Carbo struggled with some transmission issues! Can anyone explain me why ovivo didn't have to give the place back to Superstepa after causing the huge accident? Does the safety car disable this rule? Stepa turns into me to avoid the crash with doom. Nothing I could have done in that split second. Just a racing incident with no need to give back a position. |
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Post by bladecruiser on Dec 19, 2015 15:15:22 GMT
Same as other accidents? The person at fault gets the penalty, and if it caused a bigger pile up, safety cars come out. So if you do the MDSB with someone on your rear bumper and they hit you because of it, it's your fault, right? I wouldn't say so. I'd say it's the person doing the rear ending's fault for not keeping enough space to react to the person in front's driving. Is it the person in front's fault if they get rear ended going into a turn with an earlier braking point than the person behind? |
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Post by arsenalgunner20 on Dec 19, 2015 15:24:01 GMT
ovivoJR Nice video! But I was wondering, in some of the sharper turns you see the side of your car and to me it seems like your car almost 'floats' over the track. Did you change something in your settings so your game runs smoother or something like that? This is a common phenomenon when a driver exceeds the limits of a car. Senna did that on Monaco. Viewers quoted that he was going through Barriere in a turn. This occured because he drove so close to them. So that might explain why my car looks like it floats. But this is also a characteristic of the Carbo. Very loose on the rear. I was actually talking about your graphics! Like it seems that your car drove 2 cm above the road, which I mentioned as 'floating'. I wasn't referring to your driving style  |
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Post by jeffreyb1990 on Dec 19, 2015 15:30:55 GMT
So if you do the MDSB with someone on your rear bumper and they hit you because of it, it's your fault, right? I wouldn't say so. I'd say it's the person doing the rear ending's fault for not keeping enough space to react to the person in front's driving. Is it the person in front's fault if they get rear ended going into a turn with an earlier braking point than the person behind? So you say it's ok to go slower through a turn on purpose to get the MDSB which means the person behind can catch up. Then you use the handbrake and expect the person behind you not to rear end you? We can also just hand the win to the banshee drivers. A braketest, what it basically is, is illegal and it's completely different from the situation you describe as the MDSB is after the turn. |
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Post by bladecruiser on Dec 19, 2015 16:19:53 GMT
I wouldn't say so. I'd say it's the person doing the rear ending's fault for not keeping enough space to react to the person in front's driving. Is it the person in front's fault if they get rear ended going into a turn with an earlier braking point than the person behind? So you say it's ok to go slower through a turn on purpose to get the MDSB which means the person behind can catch up. Then you use the handbrake and expect the person behind you not to rear end you? We can also just hand the win to the banshee drivers. A braketest, what it basically is, is illegal and it's completely different from the situation you describe as the MDSB is after the turn. We've also already had this discussion back in season 1's thread, and what I said about it was the decision rendered. If you want the full arguments for both sides, they're in the thread. |
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Post by Dnl_Jackson on Dec 19, 2015 16:50:30 GMT
I can understand jeffrey's concerns. I have no problem with the MDSB in general but exploiting it is not what the game/race should be about. Season 2 has shown that the banshee is competitive even without MDSB and I think it is ok to use it but not like jeffrey said - slowing down more then needed to get the MDSB.
However I would let it be everyones own decision to use it or not as long as the rules are followed.
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Post by bladecruiser on Dec 19, 2015 16:58:22 GMT
...like I said, all of this has been discussed before in the season 1 thread. Even this.
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Post by Oh_Darn on Dec 19, 2015 17:33:22 GMT
jeffreyb1990 , I really don't get your issues. First of all its really easy to avoid rear ending a Banshee, you know that car will MDSB out of a slow corner, so adjust your line accordingly. I would say its the fault of the person rear ending the Banshee by probably not anticipating or not paying attention. About not pitting in lap 1 is just a rule we set up for the event and everyone should stick to it. We've been using it for this entire season without a single complaint, I heard people say it (f.e. 2 pits but its not allowed to pit in lap 1) before every race in the season, also the last two races. I don't remember about season 1 but I assume we used pretty much the same set of rules. Why would we change this rule after running it for two seasons without issues?
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Post by Dnl_Jackson on Dec 19, 2015 20:24:19 GMT
I think the term "not allowed in the first lap" is a bit missleading or I always misunderstood how it should work. I thought if you pit in the first lap it doesn't count as your mandatory pit stop.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 20:50:38 GMT
Dnl_Jackson .. Correct ,, you can pit on 1st lap,, but it doesnt count towards mandatory pit stops
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Post by Dnl_Jackson on Dec 19, 2015 22:09:59 GMT
Dnl_Jackson .. Correct ,, you can pit on 1st lap,, but it doesnt count towards mandatory pit stops So, the rule should be "2 mandatory pit stops. If you pit in the first lap it doesn't count for it." instead of not allowed" in the first lap". |
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Post by jeffreyb1990 on Dec 20, 2015 0:30:22 GMT
jeffreyb1990 , I really don't get your issues. First of all its really easy to avoid rear ending a Banshee, you know that car will MDSB out of a slow corner, so adjust your line accordingly. I would say its the fault of the person rear ending the Banshee by probably not anticipating or not paying attention. About not pitting in lap 1 is just a rule we set up for the event and everyone should stick to it. We've been using it for this entire season without a single complaint, I heard people say it (f.e. 2 pits but its not allowed to pit in lap 1) before every race in the season, also the last two races. I don't remember about season 1 but I assume we used pretty much the same set of rules. Why would we change this rule after running it for two seasons without issues? First of all having certain rules for 2 season doesn't make them perfect. Ok the pit rule probably isn't going to change, I only thought that it was a weird rule. If you get a damaged car you can pit and it will be one of the mandatory pitstops except when it's the first lap, when usually the most accidents happen. For me this rule just doesn't make any sense. The rule is probably to prevent people from taking advantage as I tried on On The Darn. It should however be put in the OP. About the MDSB I completely disagree. Why should I have to adjust my line because the driver in front of me is going to give a mini braketest when exiting the turn. I was under the assumption that this event was based on an exsisting raceclass. Although they obviously don't have rules about the MDSB, they have rules about braketests as they're not allowed. What you basically say is that I have to adjust my line and because of that sacrifice exitspeed out of the corner so the person in front of me can get an accelerationboost. See how this doesn't make any sense. This isn't how racing works at all. Imo the return of the MDSB is one of the biggest mistakes R* has made and now you're telling me I have to make room so people can use that shit without making me crash in their rear end? This is bullshit and you know it. Otherwise I could just brake in the middle of a straight with people right behind me and if they hit me it's their fault and they have to wait. Boosting should be at your own risk not the other way around. |
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