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Post by Rocket on Dec 5, 2014 14:43:27 GMT
so then dont do it. If a person wants to race one way, let them do it. Dont restrict them. Itll drive them away from the community. I personally dont like curb boosts, but i still do it because its fast. I dont care how i race, but that i enjoy it. If im enjoyin myself when i race, i dont care how anybody else races. Just do you rather than restrict others. If you want pure clean racing, then create an event and ban the stuff for the event. Make a track restricting lines. Idc what you do, just have fun. Oh well, I see that we are two completely different persons so there's no point arguing more with you. I hope to see you lot on pCARS for some proper racing though. i will be but im on xb1 so we wont be racing together. I do agree with you to a point though. Te advantages are cheap but they are there and if you restrct them, people are going to leave the community. Then we will have very few people to compete against. Fair debate though. It was enjoyable.
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Post by Hale on Dec 5, 2014 15:07:10 GMT
Stepping in before this descends into an argument. An argument between NoDo and SB is not what this is about. This is about NoDo and a crew wide decision. Personally I think that we have come to a good understanding wherein an event organiser can ban anything he or she wants. This creates variety and keeps things fresh. Now the concept of a skill gap? Okay so with High-End wheels on your car it becomes about hitting the best possible lines to keep your car stable and going fast. Offroad wheels require the ultimate racing lines using the whole road. It's like saying that supercars are easy to drive so we should all race futo's in the rain? The point you seem to be missing is that we do not split skill in NoDo, how many times must i say this? gun1t123 I enjoyed racing with you in your rule set but it isn't the only thing in GTA racing for me. elmister What you do in GTA isn't "proper racing" this is all a fun thing for us. Another point nobody has mentioned is GTA Race Crew and Cloud 9 who will both most likely laugh at these rulesets and continue on as normal. As is their right, and I for one will not be left at a disadvantage. I play to win, while still enjoying what i do. 5 pages of this thread now and it seems 95% of the posts are not in favour of any bans day to day. We listen to the community. Even people who detest the boosting and the wheels do not want to ban them. Any problems with anything in this thread please either personal message me or talk on skype.
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Post by gun1t123 on Dec 5, 2014 15:07:23 GMT
Oh well, I see that we are two completely different persons so there's no point arguing more with you. I hope to see you lot on pCARS for some proper racing though. i will be but im on xb1 so we wont be racing together. I do agree with you to a point though. Te advantages are cheap but they are there and if you restrct them, people are going to leave the community. Then we will have very few people to compete against. Fair debate though. It was enjoyable. The whole community thing, don't you think it's a bit of an over-exaggeration? If people are incapable of racing within these guidelines, they shouldn't race at all imo. People with any sort of race-craft would easily adapt to these restrictions so there shouldn't a problem anyway.
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Post by gun1t123 on Dec 5, 2014 15:16:49 GMT
Stepping in before this descends into an argument. An argument between NoDo and SB is not what this is about. This is about NoDo and a crew wide decision. Personally I think that we have come to a good understanding wherein an event organiser can ban anything he or she wants. This creates variety and keeps things fresh. Now the concept of a skill gap? Okay so with High-End wheels on your car it becomes about hitting the best possible lines to keep your car stable and going fast. Offroad wheels require the ultimate racing lines using the whole road. It's like saying that supercars are easy to drive so we should all race futo's in the rain? The point you seem to be missing is that we do not split skill in NoDo, how many times must i say this? gun1t123 I enjoyed racing with you in your rule set but it isn't the only thing in GTA racing for me. elmister What you do in GTA isn't "proper racing" this is all a fun thing for us. Another point nobody has mentioned is GTA Race Crew and Cloud 9 who will both most likely laugh at these rulesets and continue on as normal. As is their right, and I for one will not be left at a disadvantage. I play to win, while still enjoying what i do. 5 pages of this thread now and it seems 95% of the posts are not in favour of any bans day to day. We listen to the community. Even people who detest the boosting and the wheels do not want to ban them. Any problems with anything in this thread please either personal message me or talk on skype. A Futo Is Not a Turismo nor a Supercar. Lets not go into specifics now shall we
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Post by Hale on Dec 5, 2014 15:22:53 GMT
Stepping in before this descends into an argument. An argument between NoDo and SB is not what this is about. This is about NoDo and a crew wide decision. Personally I think that we have come to a good understanding wherein an event organiser can ban anything he or she wants. This creates variety and keeps things fresh. Now the concept of a skill gap? Okay so with High-End wheels on your car it becomes about hitting the best possible lines to keep your car stable and going fast. Offroad wheels require the ultimate racing lines using the whole road. It's like saying that supercars are easy to drive so we should all race futo's in the rain? The point you seem to be missing is that we do not split skill in NoDo, how many times must i say this? gun1t123 I enjoyed racing with you in your rule set but it isn't the only thing in GTA racing for me. elmister What you do in GTA isn't "proper racing" this is all a fun thing for us. Another point nobody has mentioned is GTA Race Crew and Cloud 9 who will both most likely laugh at these rulesets and continue on as normal. As is their right, and I for one will not be left at a disadvantage. I play to win, while still enjoying what i do. 5 pages of this thread now and it seems 95% of the posts are not in favour of any bans day to day. We listen to the community. Even people who detest the boosting and the wheels do not want to ban them. Any problems with anything in this thread please either personal message me or talk on skype. A Futo Is Not a Turismo nor a Supercar. Lets not go into specifics now shall we Same principle bruh. Takes more skill to drive fast.
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Post by gun1t123 on Dec 5, 2014 15:23:02 GMT
Stepping in before this descends into an argument. An argument between NoDo and SB is not what this is about. This is about NoDo and a crew wide decision. Personally I think that we have come to a good understanding wherein an event organiser can ban anything he or she wants. This creates variety and keeps things fresh. Now the concept of a skill gap? Okay so with High-End wheels on your car it becomes about hitting the best possible lines to keep your car stable and going fast. Offroad wheels require the ultimate racing lines using the whole road. It's like saying that supercars are easy to drive so we should all race futo's in the rain? The point you seem to be missing is that we do not split skill in NoDo, how many times must i say this? gun1t123 I enjoyed racing with you in your rule set but it isn't the only thing in GTA racing for me. elmister What you do in GTA isn't "proper racing" this is all a fun thing for us. Another point nobody has mentioned is GTA Race Crew and Cloud 9 who will both most likely laugh at these rulesets and continue on as normal. As is their right, and I for one will not be left at a disadvantage. I play to win, while still enjoying what i do. 5 pages of this thread now and it seems 95% of the posts are not in favour of any bans day to day. We listen to the community. Even people who detest the boosting and the wheels do not want to ban them. Any problems with anything in this thread please either personal message me or talk on skype. Oh and about the line taking. You've hit the nail with "keep your car stable and going fast" that skill-gap is what we want. What should be there in the first place if the game wasn't broken. It's stupid to say "advantage" over something that shouldn't be there in the first place. It's simply cheap.
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Post by Rocket on Dec 5, 2014 15:24:23 GMT
i will be but im on xb1 so we wont be racing together. I do agree with you to a point though. Te advantages are cheap but they are there and if you restrct them, people are going to leave the community. Then we will have very few people to compete against. Fair debate though. It was enjoyable. The whole community thing, don't you think it's a bit of an over-exaggeration? If people are incapable of racing within these guidelines, they shouldn't race at all imo. People with any sort of race-craft would easily adapt to these restrictions so there shouldn't a problem anyway. so youre now saying that youd rather gta racing be an exclusive thing than an open one? Low shaggy
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Post by gun1t123 on Dec 5, 2014 15:24:25 GMT
A Futo Is Not a Turismo nor a Supercar. Lets not go into specifics now shall we Same principle bruh. Takes more skill to drive fast. Hence why Futo has nothing to do with Supercars. Although the principle may be the same. We're not talking about Futos.
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Post by gun1t123 on Dec 5, 2014 15:27:27 GMT
The whole community thing, don't you think it's a bit of an over-exaggeration? If people are incapable of racing within these guidelines, they shouldn't race at all imo. People with any sort of race-craft would easily adapt to these restrictions so there shouldn't a problem anyway. so youre now saying that youd rather gta racing be an exclusive thing than an open one? Low shaggy LOW?! The whole off-road tires/curb boosting should've NEVER been part of the game, so we're keeping it that way. How's that making it exclusive? When something is broken, we shall take that away from what we actually want to do. Which is keeping racing fair and skillful to the concepts which actually make sense.
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Post by Rocket on Dec 5, 2014 15:40:15 GMT
so youre now saying that youd rather gta racing be an exclusive thing than an open one? Low shaggy LOW?! The whole off-road tires/curb boosting should've NEVER been part of the game, so we're keeping it that way. How's that making it exclusive? When something is broken, we shall take that away from what we actually want to do. Which is keeping racing fair and skillful to the concepts which actually make sense. idc if it should or shouldnt be in the game. Is it in the game? Yes it is. Quit complaining about it. Who cares? It allows players with lower skill who actually know and understand the concept to accel against those who dont and compete with others who do. You dont enjoy racing with it? Then dont! Its that simple. Dont try to restrict others just because you dont like it. Let people play the way they want to. Its like cod pubs. Use the best stuff if you want to do well. If u want to have fun, set yourself a challenge.
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Post by Lupaciađź’• on Dec 5, 2014 15:41:14 GMT
I would like to remind you guys that this is a discussion thread, not an argument thread.
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Post by Rocket on Dec 5, 2014 15:44:07 GMT
so youre now saying that youd rather gta racing be an exclusive thing than an open one? Low shaggy LOW?! The whole off-road tires/curb boosting should've NEVER been part of the game, so we're keeping it that way. How's that making it exclusive? When something is broken, we shall take that away from what we actually want to do. Which is keeping racing fair and skillful to the concepts which actually make sense. lets message about it instead so that this thread doesnt get taken down and people can post their input. That is, of course, if you feek like an argument over something irrelevant to your crew is necessary.
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Post by ossiru on Dec 5, 2014 16:00:16 GMT
so youre now saying that youd rather gta racing be an exclusive thing than an open one? Low shaggy LOW?! The whole off-road tires/curb boosting should've NEVER been part of the game, so we're keeping it that way. How's that making it exclusive? When something is broken, we shall take that away from what we actually want to do. Which is keeping racing fair and skillful to the concepts which actually make sense. I don't think off-road tyres handling bumps and kerbs is wrong, it makes sense really. The problem is that R* didn't give the other tyres the traction advantage they should have. Pretty much everyone agrees that curb boosting is a silly function though, but have differing views on how to deal with it. Personally I just don't think the means justify the end when it comes to removing them as a part of racing, it just alienates newcomers from what is supposed to be an open community. I wouldn't mind racing under that ruleset in specific events/playlists, I just don't think it should be a universal rule for gta racing.
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Post by gun1t123 on Dec 5, 2014 16:00:59 GMT
LOW?! The whole off-road tires/curb boosting should've NEVER been part of the game, so we're keeping it that way. How's that making it exclusive? When something is broken, we shall take that away from what we actually want to do. Which is keeping racing fair and skillful to the concepts which actually make sense. lets message about it instead so that this thread doesnt get taken down and people can post their input. I'm not sure why people get emotionally unstable over a discussion or an argument. This all comes down to how you perceive a response. All this over-exaggeration is extremely irritating through someone's judgement on a thread. Once again i'm not a forum guy. So this world is new to me. I'm not arguing or creating chaos here. Simply stating my point as to why we have restrictions and why it should be an all round thing. Once again, i will stand to this quote. "Why let the game play for you?" No Skill-gap means no fun. People need to put effort/concentration into something to achieve the most out of it. That means putting effort into an over-take, or taking an optimal line through efficient control over your car. If that's too hard to do then people shouldn't race, Simple as.
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Post by Rocket on Dec 5, 2014 16:08:06 GMT
lets message about it instead so that this thread doesnt get taken down and people can post their input. I'm not sure why people get emotionally unstable over a discussion or an argument. This all comes down to how you perceive a response. All this over-exaggeration is extremely irritating through someone's judgement on a thread. Once again i'm not a forum guy. So this world is new to me. I'm not arguing or creating chaos here. Simply stating my point as to why we have restrictions and why it should be an all round thing. Once again, i will stand to this quote. "Why let the game play for you?" No Skill-gap means no fun. People need to put effort/concentration into something to achieve the most out of it. That means putting effort into an over-take, or taking optimal line through efficient control over your car. If that's too hard to do then people shouldn't race, Simple as. so what was the point in judging my opinion in the first place. You called my logic flawed and said it made your brain shrink like you have a fact rather than opinion. I made that first post stating my opinion not expecting a single response from it an instead gain an insult. It then blasted into an argument. I dont understand your point in it if you dont hardly even race with NODO but rather SB. I respect you and enjoy watching your videos but i disagree with you, as does over half of the people that have posted on this thread. You dont have to judge someone's opinion if you already posted something about it. My original post was not in response to ANY of yours. I enjoyed my debate with ElMister because it was a respectable one. This one was not from the start.
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